On the immutability of city roads

[Junna]

With some previous update, not too long ago, it was no longer possible to override city roads with roads of choice. This had no practical impact unless weight limits enabled in exp; but nevertheless I feel this was a very disappointing change. I do not believe this has to do with any settings as far as I have been able to tell, trying a new install and so on-- since I can no longer do things like this:



I would like to know if there was any reason for this change, and I would like to see it undone.

[Dwachs]

This should work in recent versions! Otherwise it is a bug.

[Junna]

This should work in recent versions! Otherwise it is a bug.

It's possible I've screwed up something somewhere... Is there anything in particular that would cause this, some setting in some config file maybe? I've tried to look around, but I haven't found anything.

[Dwachs]

No, there should be nothing that influences this. Only the owner of the road is checked.

[Pati]

This should work in recent versions! Otherwise it is a bug.

Recent versions... Is 1.02.2.1 a recent version? In 1.02.2.1 it doesn't work.

[prissi]

You can override (with control); but the city enforces speed limit within city limits. If you switch off growth, it will not change your roads, since it one converts them to city roads, when it renovates and adjacent building.

[Junna]

With control, you mean the key? I'm not able to override them. Both in exp and standard 102.2.1., last it worked I think was 101.

[prissi]

Layoing roads with control key should up/downgrade any road you own or is unowned.

[Junna]

Layoing roads with control key should up/downgrade any road you own or is unowned.

Perhaps it should, but it does not work.

Does it work for anyone else?

[prissi]

Just test it with release canditate: Works well.

[Junna]

Further testing suggests that the problem is my simutrans experimental config. I must have forgotten to use a standard config in the pak folder last I tried a clean install and that was why it persisted. That probably means this belongs in the help or experimental sections, sorry about that--

There is something, then, in the simutrans experimental config settings, that affects the ability to override the road surfaces. I still cannot discover any relevant setting? (This is a problem regardless of what executable is used).

[prissi]

Please state next time, that your question is for experimental branch. I'll move it there,

[Junna]

Please state next time, that your question is for experimental branch. I'll move it there,

Obviously, I did not know that at the time of the threads making which was why it wasn't here in the first place...