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Title: I cant grow cities on Simutrans Extended using the pak.ngb pakset.
Post by: fam621 on May 17, 2017, 04:15:29 PM
James, I have only just noticed (noticed it yesterday) that on pak.ngb, I cant grow cities on Simutrans Extended using the pak.ngb pakset. Is there a way to fix this or does the owner (Carl) have to fix it? Gamesave provided: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bzy63vjRdV2_RWU4X01Rc0h2ZTA.
Title: Re: I cant grow cities on Simutrans Extended using the pak.ngb pakset.
Post by: jamespetts on May 17, 2017, 05:41:07 PM
If this is pakset specific, I should think that this is a problem with the pakset (perhaps towns do grow, but extremely slowly, for example).
Title: Re: I cant grow cities on Simutrans Extended using the pak.ngb pakset.
Post by: fam621 on May 17, 2017, 06:57:10 PM
Quote from: jamespetts on May 17, 2017, 05:41:07 PM
If this is pakset specific, I should think that this is a problem with the pakset (perhaps towns do grow, but extremely slowly, for example).

Its a tool problem, in other words. I cant grow smaller cities into larger cities.
Title: Re: I cant grow cities on Simutrans Extended using the pak.ngb pakset.
Post by: jamespetts on May 17, 2017, 07:02:05 PM
Do you mean using the specific tool for growing cities?
Title: Re: I cant grow cities on Simutrans Extended using the pak.ngb pakset.
Post by: Carl on May 17, 2017, 08:49:29 PM
I intentionally set town growth to zero or near zero, as I wanted to build cities of specific sizes that wouldn't get bigger. I think it's set in simuconf.tab, so you can change it for new games. I can't remember the name of the setting though.
Title: Re: I cant grow cities on Simutrans Extended using the pak.ngb pakset.
Post by: fam621 on May 18, 2017, 05:47:56 PM
Quote from: jamespetts on May 17, 2017, 07:02:05 PM
Do you mean using the specific tool for growing cities?
Yes.
Title: Re: I cant grow cities on Simutrans Extended using the pak.ngb pakset.
Post by: jamespetts on May 18, 2017, 06:17:30 PM
Given that this is pakset specific, may I suggest that you grow towns by manually placing roads and buildings as the public player as I assume that Carl must have done? I cannot remember immediately the relationship between pakset settings and the growth tool (and it would take a lot of time to look into this, as I am not familiar with the code in this area), but it is at least plausible that there is a relationship between them meaning that low town growth settings will result in the tool having little or no effect.
Title: Re: I cant grow cities on Simutrans Extended using the pak.ngb pakset.
Post by: fam621 on May 18, 2017, 06:31:33 PM
Ok.
Title: Re: I cant grow cities on Simutrans Extended using the pak.ngb pakset.
Post by: Junna on May 18, 2017, 06:48:48 PM
Actually, I believe I have encountered this on pak128.britain as well, that some cities cannot be grown with the artificial growth tool. I'll see if I can find one affected later.
Title: Re: I cant grow cities on Simutrans Extended using the pak.ngb pakset.
Post by: fam621 on May 18, 2017, 08:38:52 PM
Cheer's Junna. :)
Title: Re: I cant grow cities on Simutrans Extended using the pak.ngb pakset.
Post by: Junna on May 20, 2017, 12:08:01 AM
http://www.mediafire.com/file/axlh8k9dmei13lh/Pak128.Britain-Ex-0.9.2J.rar

Pak

http://www.mediafire.com/file/0aac68m6is89hxi/ders7110test.sve

The city zoomed in on should be unable to grow.

Also note another thing: some cities, particular smaller ones, will display "0" in the city charts "Transported" diagram, even though stops and stations in these cities do pick up and drop off passengers.
Title: Re: I cant grow cities on Simutrans Extended using the pak.ngb pakset.
Post by: jamespetts on May 20, 2017, 12:11:44 AM
Thank you for the report. Can I confirm whether the city in this saved game has the zero transported issue?
Title: Re: I cant grow cities on Simutrans Extended using the pak.ngb pakset.
Post by: Junna on May 20, 2017, 01:29:14 AM
Looking at it's chart, it does not. However, there is the nearby city of Chilingport, that displays this issue too.
Title: Re: I cant grow cities on Simutrans Extended using the pak.ngb pakset.
Post by: Rollmaterial on May 20, 2017, 08:02:41 AM
I have had the zero transported issue too, I think it happens when the station is outside of the city limits.