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Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« on: July 10, 2010, 11:09:31 AM »
There is this service called tapatalk that enables forums to be accessed through a mobile application. I own an iTouch myself and I would really appreciate it if this forum would be enabled to be accessed through the application. They have made apps for iDevices (touch, iPhone and iPad), Blackberries, Androids and Nokia phones. Forum enabling is free and the app comes in a free and a paid version (free version is read-only). The service is compatible with SMF 1.1.x, so that shouldn't be a problem. For more information you can check out their site: http://www.tapatalk.com

Question: Could the forum owners enable tapatalk to make sure the forum is accessible through mobile devices? Because viewing the full version through such a small screen isn't very comfortable.

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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2010, 02:54:20 PM »
Nice app but not compatible with WM... meh! >:(

Btw, if this means modifying current SMF config/setup, it will be difficult that it ever gets installed here, because it would make forum upgrades and mantainance more difficult for very few worth in exchange :S
« Last Edit: July 10, 2010, 03:04:46 PM by Zeno »

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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2010, 03:20:50 PM »
These already exist:

http://forum.simutrans.com/?wap

http://forum.simutrans.com/?wap2

http://forum.simutrans.com/?imode

The reason we are very very hesitant to install plugins for the forum is as Zeno said: When I first started hosting the forum using SMF, I installed a lot of plugins. But the problem, as with so many things that have plugins, is that when one updates, the plugins so often aren't updated... And, we had major troubles with the forum - we were unable to update it - twice, I think that happened. And SMF must be kept reasonably up to date, as exploits are occasionally found for automated attacks.

So, unfortunately, it is extremely unlikely that I would consider installing a plugin...

But before I definitively say "no", what do you think of the three links? They're all different, so each is worth a try...

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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2010, 03:28:09 PM »
Ok, thanks anyway. I'll try those links and see if they are useful then.

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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2010, 11:01:13 AM »
I've tested them and the bad news is that all options are text only versions of the forum, not so bad if you just want to read the post contents but any of them show the images.

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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2013, 08:14:06 PM »
Hey, isn't there any 'mobile mode' already integrated in SMF? Well I noticed that some vBulletin boards are mobile ready -- your view is simplified, but the images are still viewable -- even with spoiler boxes. I myself travel a lot. And a lot of those times when laptops aren't practical to carry, I just access the full site using my phone's browser. :)

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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2013, 11:05:29 PM »
I also use the full mode on my phone on a weekly basis... Just to see whats happened when i'm going home or in university when i'm bored :D But it's not the best solution as it needs a lot of horizontal scrolling, zooming, etc...

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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2013, 04:41:19 AM »
I regularly read the forum (e.g. Right now) using my Android phone.
Opera mini browser displays it pretty well.

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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2013, 11:24:56 AM »
Today I tried enabling Tapatalk support... I would appreciate any feedback on the matter.

The reason we are very very hesitant to install plugins for the forum is as Zeno said: When I first started hosting the forum using SMF, I installed a lot of plugins. But the problem, as with so many things that have plugins, is that when one updates, the plugins so often aren't updated...
I think things changed a bit over three years, and I noticed many major forums use Tapatalk. Also, being a professional service, I expect it's going to be kept rather up-to-date.
It's also worth notice that Tapatalk went free of charge for normal users recently.

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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2013, 08:45:40 AM »
I'm all for it. :)

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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2013, 09:13:36 PM »
I'm not very happy with using apps like tapatalk. As i find their business concept extremely unethical. It also is tedious with commercial non open apps to find out what the intent is.

However SMF is such a pain on a mobile device...

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« Last Edit: December 10, 2013, 09:19:51 PM by sdog »

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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2013, 09:23:36 PM »
Somehow editing my post didn't work in tapa, sorry for double posting:

Apropos updates SMF here is 5 patches behind. One of those supposedly closed the hole that was used to hack SMF's own forum and retrieve the user database.

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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2013, 09:51:42 PM »
And why should I care about their intent? Their offer their base service for free and without nagging ads. Pragmatically, it's most of what I care about.



I will see when I have time to upgrade, if no other admin is faster...


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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2013, 10:53:37 PM »
And why should I care about their intent? Their offer their base service for free and without nagging ads. Pragmatically, it's most of what I care about.

Quite a lot of apps out there are made with extremely malicious intent.

It appears their business model is to provide the app for free, to get a user base and reknown, and sell an app toolkit to others who want to "monetize" their visitors. Ie building tapatalk-like apps specifically for a certain forum. Now that's something which is not very ethical, but there is a clear busniness plan visible that does not rely on **** over the users that use tapatalk directly. They'd probably lose reputation if they didn't play fair, but ultimately, we don't know what they are up to however, and with every comercial app put ourselves at risk of being "monetized" by someone.

Afterall, we're sending the forum messages through their system, and they would be able to do terrifying things, like doing semantic analysis to gain marketable data. For example about brand awareness, user preferences, consume paterns and so on.

I've had to do (research regard to their job offers) with a company that creates app-frameworks, and provides data analysis tools for their customers. When you read what they are offering, you really really get sick.

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I will see when I have time to upgrade, if no other admin is faster...

Upgrading a content management system, as a forum software also is, is i suppose, a big pain.  Thank you (pl.) very much of taking care of it.

Also, re-reading my previous message, it sounds rather ungrateful. Which i am not, i see how tapatalk makes the forum much easier to use. Forum software is sadly lagging half a decade behind recent technology*, else it would make tapatalk completely superfluous. Good new html works on any size.

*also, no blame, most are open source projects, with volunteers working on it.

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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2013, 11:21:18 PM »
Yes, they build branded builds for a price.

About data analysis here my opinion in short: a decade ago, most web pages had ad banners, 80% of which related to various degrees of ****. Since google ads revolutioned the market, most ads shown when I'm on the net are related to fields I am interested in, sometimes they're even useful. I don't care much for ethics, but I like **** better the new model.
Interestingly enough, mobile ads are much dumber and, guess what, they're 60% **** and 39% gambling...


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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2013, 12:42:54 AM »
With a little CSS the forum can be fixed for mobile.

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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2013, 12:44:28 AM »
With a little CSS the forum can be fixed for mobile.
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What An_dz can't do?

I will see when I have time to upgrade, if no other admin is faster...
I tried once or twice, but I was too afraid of breaking something so I stopped at the 1st step... considering my knowledge is limited to usability not covering the bowels of net stuff. *hands up*


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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2013, 02:30:04 PM »
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Well, I can't play a guitar. :) And get great grades in Calculus. ;D

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Re: Simutrans forum: enabling Tapatalk?
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2013, 04:09:27 PM »
Tubas are way cooler anyway.
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