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Offline killwater

Park and ride
« on: June 20, 2013, 07:19:44 PM »
Hello
Is it intended to have park and ride facilities in experimental in the future?
What I mean is that a passenger will be driving a car to a station extention then switch to the train?

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Re: Park and ride
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2013, 09:48:03 PM »
Yes, this is planned, although there are a number of other priorities - foremost among them bug fixing - before work on this can begin. Other economic features might also be given priority.
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Re: Park and ride
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2013, 01:16:39 PM »
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Re: Park and ride
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2013, 06:51:16 PM »
What a shame. I miss this feature a lot. It would help to avoid running local buses for every city.

By the way is there any probable realese date for next version of experimental and/or pak128.britan-ex?

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Re: Park and ride
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2013, 10:29:57 PM »
I was rather hoping to have it released already, but this bug has rather got in the way of that. Since I don't know what the problem actually is yet, it is hard to predict when it will be fixed, but that is my Simutrans priority at present.
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Offline AP

Re: Park and ride
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2013, 06:32:20 PM »
If Park-and-ride is coded, it needs to be done such that passengers can only make a car journey at one end of their public transport trip. They can't do citycar-train-citycar.

Offline killwater

Re: Park and ride
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2013, 07:59:46 PM »
Why so? Have you forgotten about taxi service?

Offline kierongreen

Re: Park and ride
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2013, 08:13:05 PM »
Or car hire - particularly when flying people often hire a car at the other end... Indeed you could have a variety of extensions - car park, taxi rank and car hire which could extend station coverage in interesting ways...

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Re: Park and ride
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2013, 07:01:52 PM »
I hadn't forgotten about taxi services. But most park and rides relate to commuter flows. Given that a large proportion of rail passenger traffic is commuter flows, relatively few commuters take taxis or hire cars each day at the 'work' end of their journeys.

Indeed, I doubt any city has sufficient taxi capacity for each arriving passenger to take an onward taxi journey. I presume that could be checked quite easily by finding out how many registered hackney carriages there are in a random town (e.g. Reading) vs the passenger usage stats for Reading station. I doubt there's taxi capacity for even a quarter of the arriving passengers if you filled every taxi fully.

Taxis typically carry one passenger onward, whereas a bus can carry 50+. It was a big issue in rail decline post Beeching cuts (1963) that the replacement/interconnecting buses were so poor, and nobody parked-and-rode because they couldn't complete the 'last few miles' at the other end of their train ride. They just drove all the way. Hence I say that the park and ride should allow passengers to drive at the 'origin' end of their journey only. It would (realistically) ensure investment in local bus routes by players or (realistically) lead to a drop in traffic if they are neglected.

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Re: Park and ride
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2013, 10:42:36 AM »
So maybe long distance passengers should have much higher percentage of finishing their ride by taxi or car rental.