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Title: Road choose/end of choose: Am I mistaken ?
Post by: gauthier on December 13, 2016, 09:59:56 PM
Situation:
I have a road station with several stops and with only two entry points. Buses from both side need to choose their stop, that's why I placed a choose sign at both side.
Then I have trucks that need to pass the station without stopping in. Of course, they remained stuck in front of the choose signs for a long time before moving again as their next stop is far away.

Tried solution:
I placed end of choose signs before (looking to interior) each choose sign.

Expected:
The end of choose signs cancel stop choosing process when the truck tries to look for a platform past this sign.

Happening:
Trucks remain stuck here forever, even if there's nothing at their arrival stop or in this road station.

"End of choose are not designed for that, you're stupid !" -> Yes, I got that, thanks.

So my questions are: how end of choose really works ? (I never had problems with them on tracks using them this way).
Is there a solution to my problem ?

Thanks in advance  :D
Title: Re: Road choose/end of choose: Am I mistaken ?
Post by: An_dz on December 14, 2016, 01:16:54 AM
I never understood them too, so I'm quite curious for the answer too. :D
Title: Re: Road choose/end of choose: Am I mistaken ?
Post by: Ters on December 14, 2016, 06:36:14 AM
My rule is to only ever use choose signs/signals on cul-de-sacs and to consider anything else as Doomed To Failâ„¢. I think there were some changes related to through traffic a while back, but maybe it was only done for choose signals, and not choose signs?
Title: Re: Road choose/end of choose: Am I mistaken ?
Post by: Vladki on December 14, 2016, 04:57:57 PM
I would expect the EOC sign to work as you expect. The only fail I notice is that one of your signs is on crossroads. How did you got it there?
Title: Re: Road choose/end of choose: Am I mistaken ?
Post by: Ters on December 14, 2016, 05:34:43 PM
Quote from: Vladki on December 14, 2016, 04:57:57 PM
The only fail I notice is that one of your signs is on crossroads. How did you got it there?

Build a straight road, place signs, then build the intersecting road. It's an old loophole. Unless it is supposed to have been fixed recently.

Quote from: Vladki on December 14, 2016, 04:57:57 PM
I would expect the EOC sign to work as you expect.

If it is the sign on the intersection, then it may indeed fail to register.
Title: Re: Road choose/end of choose: Am I mistaken ?
Post by: gauthier on December 14, 2016, 06:00:41 PM
Quote from: Vladki on December 14, 2016, 04:57:57 PM
I would expect the EOC sign to work as you expect. The only fail I notice is that one of your signs is on crossroads. How did you got it there?
Signs can be placed on crossroad without error messages. I do it only with end of choose as they have no direction. With tracks it works fine.
Title: Re: Road choose/end of choose: Am I mistaken ?
Post by: Ters on December 14, 2016, 07:57:59 PM
Just shows that these things are too complex to try to understand, and therefore use.