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Offline planestrainscomputer

Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #700 on: March 01, 2017, 08:28:56 AM »
It would be really nice to see some laxed allocations (e.g. non Gatwick Express trains turning up on Gatwick Express vice versa or 455's to Reading) Enjoying the updates and can't wait to see the 700's mix in with the 377's on the Thameslink lines.

Offline Carl

Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #701 on: March 01, 2017, 03:21:13 PM »
Thanks ptc! There are already a few lines running with mixed stock on the map, e.g. CrossCountry routes with both Voyagers and HSTs, and some Southeastern routes with both 465s and 375s. The challenge with doing this is making different kinds of stock run to a common timetable. (This was actually pretty difficult for the CrossCountry routes.) I expect it would be fine for Gatwick Express and for Reading 455s. Do 455s get to Reading very much?

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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #702 on: March 01, 2017, 06:35:47 PM »
Thanks ptc! There are already a few lines running with mixed stock on the map, e.g. CrossCountry routes with both Voyagers and HSTs, and some Southeastern routes with both 465s and 375s. The challenge with doing this is making different kinds of stock run to a common timetable. (This was actually pretty difficult for the CrossCountry routes.) I expect it would be fine for Gatwick Express and for Reading 455s. Do 455s get to Reading very much?
Yes, it happens on most days when 450's are needed on the Windsor line with the 458/5s playing up. The 455's usually run in 8 car formations. Same thing with the Hounslow lines which get the 455/450/458/5 all running at the same time like in your London map.

Offline Lewis

Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #703 on: March 01, 2017, 07:48:02 PM »
Hmmm.. just a quick look on google and I cant seem to find anything about a class 455 to reading apart from someone going on about the toilet problem.

Offline planestrainscomputer

Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #704 on: March 01, 2017, 09:54:49 PM »
Hmmm.. just a quick look on google and I cant seem to find anything about a class 455 to reading apart from someone going on about the toilet problem.
I had a look on the internet as well and found this:
 ;D So it does happen enough to be uproar about it, even now that the 450's live on the line.

Offline Carl

Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #705 on: March 01, 2017, 09:58:18 PM »
Haha, I cannot believe that actually exists. Well, that seals it. I will add a token 455 on the Reading route :) I need to repaint the 458s too, now I think about it.

Offline Lewis

Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #706 on: March 21, 2017, 07:37:11 PM »
Class 124? if they still ran today. What about a Class 126?

Offline Carl

[Updated savegame] Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #707 on: March 25, 2017, 06:39:59 AM »
Took a month off working on this - went on holiday for a week and since then have been engrossed in Path of Exile, Elder Scrolls Online, and Caves of Qud. Back to Simutrans now though!

Here's the updated savegame. Dropbox killed all its public links this week, so previous links may not work. I've updated a few of the recent ones, but I'm not going to go through all 30 pages of the thread!

Screenshot of Southend and Rochford. At Southend,the lines from Fenchurch Street (heading west) and Liverpool Street (heading north then west) almost meet.


Full changelog:
- Class 321 (Greater Anglia) graphics (major update)
- Updated Class 357 Graphics (minor update)
- Gravesend & Gravesham rebuilt (+1 bus line)
- Tilbury and docks rebuilt
- Southend & south east Essex rebuilt (+5 bus lines)
- Clacton-on-Sea rebuilt (but not its surrounds, yet)

I've left Kent behind for now. It's all been rebuilt except for the areas surrounding London. As I mentioned above, I'm giving London a fairly wide berth for now as it will be the trickiest area to rebuild. So I've covered up to and including Gravesend and Tonbridge, but have left Dartford and Sevenoaks for later. Now it's time to fill in the gaps in Essex, and then move up to Suffolk.


Nice work on the DMUs, Lewis!

Offline Carl

[Update] Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #708 on: April 09, 2017, 09:54:45 AM »
A little more progress to report with an updated savegame. It's mostly Ipswich and north Essex that have been updated this time. My Suffolk geography has improved and I now know which part of the world Babergh District Council governs...

This screenshot shows Colchester (left) and Ipswich (right), with the respective branch lines to Clacton and Felixstowe. The Sudbury line heads off-camera in the top left. On the top right are the lines heading to Norwich and Lowestoft.



Looking at this screenshot makes it clear to me that the normal road bridges are the graphical priority to improve. The bright white doesn't look great.

Full list of changes:
- Updated train livery for Class 90 and Mark 3 carriages (Greater Anglia)
- Clacton surrounds and Harwich rebuilt (+5 bus routes added)
- Ipswich rebuilt (+buses to Hadleigh/Sudbury, Melton, Felixstowe, Colchester, and the Shotley peninsula added)
- Felixstowe rebuilt
- Sudbury to Haverhill bus route added

Next up? The remainder of Suffolk, before moving up to my childhood home: Norfolk. And now that Felixstowe is done, I'd better look into some more freight routes...

Offline Lewis

Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #709 on: April 10, 2017, 08:49:15 AM »
Freight!!!!  ;)

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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #710 on: April 10, 2017, 05:10:21 PM »
Oh yeah! Freight Baby. #Freight4Life

Offline Lewis

Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #711 on: April 16, 2017, 01:42:23 PM »
Or maybe some Loco-Hauled passenger trains like the WAG Express or the class 37s used by Northern and Greater Anglia.  ;D

Offline Carl

Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #712 on: April 19, 2017, 09:36:00 AM »
Yes, that's a good idea! I'll be doing the Great Yarmouth line soon so that would be a nice place to start. It'll probably be a while before I hit Cumbria or Wales.

Offline railh

Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #713 on: April 23, 2017, 12:02:25 PM »
That's an impressive game. Have you got the UK map as ppm file (or is there any way to extract it from the game)?

Offline Carl

Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #714 on: April 23, 2017, 03:33:19 PM »
Glad you like it! You can find the ppm here:
http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=9124.msg85150#msg85150

Offline railh

Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #715 on: April 23, 2017, 03:42:33 PM »
Unfortunately, the dropbox link does not work.

Offline Carl

Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #716 on: April 23, 2017, 03:59:42 PM »
Sorry about that - try now. The new dropbox link sharing system seems a bit hit and miss.

Offline railh

Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #717 on: April 23, 2017, 04:35:20 PM »
Thanks a lot!

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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #718 on: May 20, 2017, 08:26:35 PM »
Why is it that my map isnt has famous has your's? :(

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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #719 on: May 20, 2017, 08:36:17 PM »
You could try more screenshots and videos?

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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #720 on: May 21, 2017, 06:51:37 AM »
I suppose fam621 that your map is less ambitious and exciting for people to look at then Carl's is.

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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #721 on: May 21, 2017, 11:59:10 AM »
Yes, but the pictures are too big and over 64KB.

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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #722 on: May 21, 2017, 12:13:42 PM »
You could upload them here.
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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #723 on: May 21, 2017, 12:25:18 PM »
Are the login details for there the same or do you have to make an account for there James?

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« Reply #724 on: May 21, 2017, 12:35:54 PM »
I suspect the latter - you may want to ask Isaac about that.
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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #725 on: May 21, 2017, 12:51:50 PM »
Carl, when I (try to) load the pakset, it crashes for some weird reason, can it be looked at please asap.

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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #726 on: May 21, 2017, 01:12:24 PM »
Thats most likely to be your version.

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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #727 on: May 21, 2017, 01:17:54 PM »
I redownloaded it and even so, it still crashes. I think still, its the software which does not like it.
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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #728 on: May 21, 2017, 10:11:13 PM »
Which version of Simutrans?

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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #729 on: May 22, 2017, 06:18:15 PM »
Extended.

Offline Carl

Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #730 on: May 22, 2017, 06:53:28 PM »
I haven't tested the map with Extended at all, but I understand that some people have had it working before. If the freshly-downloaded version doesn't work, then that suggests something has changed in Extended.

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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #731 on: May 22, 2017, 07:48:04 PM »
Thats right.

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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #732 on: May 22, 2017, 10:50:56 PM »
Is the source code of this pakset available? If so, then Fam621 could compile it afresh with the latest Extended makeobj and get it working that way.
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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #733 on: May 23, 2017, 03:40:30 PM »
No, not really. Some of it is from pak64 and related addons; much of it has been adjusted over the years, and most of the trains are built from scratch. It's not a pakset in the traditional sense (as I keep saying), but simply the folder associated with this single map.

The British Trains for Pak 64 download contains all the new trains, at least:
http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=11781.100

Am I to understand that no pak files compiled with old makeobjs will work in Extended?

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Re: Great Britain in Simutrans Experimental
« Reply #734 on: May 23, 2017, 11:52:06 PM »
I have not specifically tested this - I am afraid that I have quite a queue of bug reports and other development work with the result that backwards compatibility issues are rather lower down the list of priority than, say, balancing or crashes when a current pakset is being used.
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