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Offline pletiplot

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99.17 into 100
« on: August 09, 2008, 07:19:56 PM »
Hi,
I have just installed 100.1, load my very old game and I am very dissapointed of the big missmatch of vehicles.
Instead of weak Benhart BR228 I suddenly have Pantheres (in year 1984 with timeline) and many other vehicles are substitued with some really different ones. Could someone help me, how could I solve it?

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Re: 99.17 into 100
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2008, 07:28:13 PM »
Which pak? With pak64 there should be correct substitution. Otherwise add the names to the file compat.tab in pak/compat.tab

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Re: 99.17 into 100
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2008, 09:53:17 PM »
A lot of vehicles have been removed due to licence change.
You should copy the missing old vehicles to the new pak directory.
Or install simutrans 100 into previous 99.17 installation.

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Re: 99.17 into 100
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2008, 10:04:55 PM »
Actually, for this reason there is the file compat.tab. It has double lines: First line old name, next line new name. Hmm, seems the 228 is really missing there.

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Re: 99.17 into 100
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2008, 09:24:19 AM »
Thank you for explanation. I dont need to have 228, I'll satisfied with similar engine - similar with power, speed and era. I will have a look at it.

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Re: 99.17 into 100
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2008, 08:16:46 PM »
Please report any other missing engines, then.

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Re: 99.17 into 100
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2008, 02:06:01 PM »
BR55 Deltic
MJHN Avocet
BR103 (which is disabled, because of imbalance)

have no compat record too.
Should I add it, or could I wait for official pak64 patch?

I cant search all eras, it would take too much time.

What about MaxiTaxi?
Some trucks and ships have lsmaller capacities than their peceeders, but it is normal I think.

Some new vehicles are a bit uglier (I dont like two deck passanger wagoon), but it is the life. On the other hand new ships are very nice .

However I still dont like running costs setting up algorithm. Slow and strong engines are too expensive, fast and weak are too lowcost - but put them twice and you have fast and strong meta engine with half costs then equivalent engine. And the gear - it increases the final speed but it is imposible to reach it, because it takes long time. Fast engines with big gear are too expensive. And for some engines I don't understand the costs at all.

« Last Edit: August 17, 2008, 02:39:16 PM by pletiplot »

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Re: 99.17 into 100
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2008, 07:35:58 PM »
Strange, there should be a compat.tab in pak/compat.tab with the entries needed for replacement. If missing, download the one from pak64-svn: http://simutrans.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/simutrans/pak64/compat/

The engines you give are missing in there though ...