Ships can't find route in Experimental.

[BBGunn]

Hi all.  I searched but I cannot find the solution to this problem.

I am playing a game with Simutrans 112.3 Experimental 11.4.   I am using Pak128.Britain-Ex-0.9.0, with some addons.  The year is 1900.  I put a passenger dock in each of two nearby cities, as shown in the attached screenshot.  Then I built a shipyard (shown in the middle right of the screenshot), purchased a ferry, and set up a ferry line.  However, when I press the "Start" button, I get a warning "Vehicle can't find route".  This happens no matter what ferry I purchase, whether steam or sail.  I tried doing the "rotating four times" trick mentioned above, but that didn't work.  I saved and reloaded, but that did not work as well.  I even tried using waypoints and that did not work, either, although I shouldn't have to use waypoints for such a short distance.  There are no land obstacles between the two docks.  The water in the area is shallow; I don't think that has anything to do with it, though.

Any advice?

[greenling]

Hello BBGunn
The Water on the photo it declare as ocean.
Ships they not can operate on Ocean get the massage: "Vehicle can't find route".

[jamespetts]

Can you upload a saved game in which this can be reproduced?

[BBGunn]

Can you upload a saved game in which this can be reproduced?

Sure.  The save game from which that screenshot came is linked here.

[Tazze]

Hello BBGunn.
I have ever experienced this problem. I don't know whether it is by design or not ,but, ships cannot go through the carved river on the right,  because the river is narrow. so, can you try to widen the river with landscaping tool or move the passenger dock to a large somewhere?
I hope I could help to solve your problem.

[BBGunn]

@Tazze: Thank you for the suggestion, but that didn't work either.
I also noticed something new: when I tried to start a train line, the train couldn't find its route either.  I made sure that the tracks were connected.

EDIT:  I wanted to see if the addons were the problem, so I started a game without addons, with a new map, and with just two cities on opposite sides of a large body of water.  I tried to make a ferry link between the two cities, and again, the vehicle could not find its route.  I have included that save game here.  The docks are still in both cities, and there is a boat in the shipyard near the northern city.

[Jando]

My game crashes when trying to load your save game. I don't know why.

[jamespetts]

Thank you for this report - I have downloaded your saved game and fixed the bug which caused it to crash (you were using addons that I did not have, and there was a bug, which I have now fixed on the 11.x branch, causing the game to crash when a saved game was loaded with buildings not present on the loading client).

Looking at your saved game, however, the ship's inability to find a route is not a bug: the Norfolk wherry is a river boat, not a sea going ship. This is indicated by the note in the bottom left of the text in the depot window, "MUST USE: Waterway". Any boat with this restriction cannot travel on open seas, but only on suitable canals or rivers (see the "MAY USE:" designations to the right for a list of suitable canal/river types).

There are no passenger sailing ships available in 1900. Instead, for sea-going passenger service, you will need to build a Shipyard (steam), which makes available the Channel screw ship, the compound coastal paddle ship and the luxury coastal paddle ship, all of which can sail on the open seas.

[BBGunn]

I see.  I'll be sure to look at that information more carefully from now on.

Thank you for your reply, and thank you for fixing the bug!