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Offline THLeaderH jp

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How to kill the reversing time feature?
« on: March 19, 2015, 09:05:53 AM »
Hello,everyone.
I'm playing simutrans-experimental and I want to kill the reversing time feature but I don't know how to do it.
I found simuconf.tab in the config folder. In that, I modified like this.
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#unit_reverse_time_seconds=45
unit_reverse_time_seconds=0
#hauled_reverse_time_seconds=120
hauled_reverse_time_seconds=0
#turntable_reverse_time_seconds=320
turntable_reverse_time_seconds=0
I set all "reverse_time_seconds" 0 but the result was like figure1.png.

Here is the data of my machine.
OS:mac osx 10.7.5
CPU´╝ÜCore2Duo
Version: simutrans experimental 11.35 (based on simutrans-standard 112.3)

What should I do?

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Re: How to kill the reversing time feature?
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2015, 06:58:11 PM »
Changing simuconf.tab does not affect a game once it has started, as all the settings are saved with a game: simuconf.tab only affects new games. To alter settings on an existing saved game, use the advanced settings dialogue, which is, on Pak128.Britain-Ex, accessibly using the "i" key.

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Re: How to kill the reversing time feature?
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2015, 11:24:15 PM »
I found an advanced setting dialog, as figure2.jpg. However, where are these three parameter?

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Re: How to kill the reversing time feature?
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2015, 11:47:59 PM »
Ahh, I am afraid that I do not think that these settings have been added to the advanced settings dialogue. Sorry about that.

Incidentally, is there a particular reason that you want to disable this feature?

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Re: How to kill the reversing time feature?
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2015, 05:25:57 AM »
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progdir_overrides_savegame_settings = 1I set this and reverse_time_seconds in simuconf.tab but reverse_time didn't become zero.
"reverse_time_seconds" in simuconf.tab doesn't affect the game?

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Incidentally, is there a particular reason that you want to disable this feature?
Amm... I just wanted to play the experimental like simutrans-standard in the point of reversing.

I also tried a new game with "reverse_time_seconds = 0" and trains took no time to reverse.
Maybe "reverse_time_seconds" is reflected correctly in a new game.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2015, 01:20:40 AM by THLeaderH »

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Re: How to kill the reversing time feature?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2015, 11:00:15 PM »
Personally I like the reversing feature in Experimental, but I always wonder why the trains first wait for load or schedule and then start reversing. Since they occupy the platform anyway they might as well reverse while they wait. :)

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Re: How to kill the reversing time feature?
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2015, 12:08:31 AM »
One of the reasons why I want to kill this feature is that time schedules of trains are often disturbed at the ends of the line. I observed sometimes how vehicles wait for schedule at the ends of the line. Sometimes trains first wait for load or schedule and then start reversing. However, sometimes trains wait for schedule so that the trains depart at the set time including their reversing time.

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Re: How to kill the reversing time feature?
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2015, 12:32:48 AM »
With one exception to which I will turn presently, the loading time actually takes account of the reversing time. Suppose, for example, that a convoy had a loading time of 10 minutes and a reversing time of 5 minutes: the convoy would actually load for 5 minutes, then commence reversing, and load all the while during the reversing until it departs. If the loading time were 5 minutes and the reversing time 10 minutes, it would start reversing nearly as soon as it got to the stop, and reverse (all the while loading) for the full 10 minutes.

The one exception to this is where the convoy has not yet worked out that it will need to be reversing at this particular stop: it will then load, then try to leave, at which point it will work out that it needs to reverse, and add the reversing time on top. When it does this, however, it adds data to the schedule (marked in the current version with an [R], but the next version will have it as a [<<] symbol, as the letter "R" is language dependant), so that it and any other convoy on that line will know in advance to reverse at that point in its schedule. This will therefore only be relevant when the the first convoy in a line stops at a reversing stop for the first time.

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Re: How to kill the reversing time feature?
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2015, 10:17:47 PM »
Ah, that makes sense, James, good plan! Thanks!