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Offline The Hood

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Release of PakBritain 1.0
« on: July 08, 2009, 07:52:29 PM »
Finally Pak128.Britain 1.0 is ready for release!  As this is a beta version, it is not fully balanced, and is not complete (e.g. no trucks, boats or planes yet).  To help us get the gameplay right in future, I'd really appreciate people playing this and commenting on how the gameplay is (too easy/hard to make money, what if anything is not quite right, any odd/unrealistic behaviour).  Please make a post about it in the forum.

Hope you enjoy!

TEMPORARY DOWNLOAD LOCATION (because sourceforge is being weird and won't let me upload it):
http://www.2shared.com/file/6611790/cf300a19/pak128Britain_1_0_102.html (download link is very small at the bottom right of the page!)


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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2009, 07:57:30 PM »
I uploaded it to simutrans.us, and I'll pm login info there in case you want to modify/pull...

Meanwhile:
http://simutrans.us/pak128Britain/

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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2009, 08:08:07 PM »
Excellent! This is very good news indeed. This is a really excellent pakset in the making - I know that The Hood and, in the past, Kieron have put an enormous amount of work into it. I am very much looking forward to further developments.

In the meantime, I am planning on producing a version of PakBritain optimised for Simutrans-Experimental, with all of the Simutrans-Experimental features enabled. More on that in due course - watch this space :-)

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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2009, 08:32:52 PM »
It is really really nice to have this pak128.Britain release! Thank you! *smile*

But... I am having 2 problems with the pak, the first could very well be something I am doing wrong...

I am playing r2570 on debian/squeeze and after having downloaded the release and placed it in the right folder, I CAN play the pak, but only if I specify it on command line with -objects pak128.Britain/, i.e., the pak does not show up in the pak chooser upon start up - where pak, pak.german, pak192.comic etc nicely are displayed. Anyone have a good idea on what I am doing wrong here?

The second problem is with the Sheep Farms - their wool production keeps blinking between -1 and 16383, both in the Factory List and when in the Factory Details. Is something misconfigured?

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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2009, 08:46:43 PM »
the fixed SheepFarms


extract the BritIndustry.pak and replace the pak files



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I am playing r2570 on debian/squeeze and after having downloaded the release and placed it in the right folder, I CAN play the pak, but only if I specify it on command line with -objects pak128.Britain/, i.e., the pak does not show up in the pak chooser upon start up - where pak, pak.german, pak192.comic etc nicely are displayed. Anyone have a good idea on what I am doing wrong here?
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ground.Outside.pak is merged, this is wrong

see http://archive.forum.simutrans.com/topic/07012.0/index.html

files delete, new version 1.02
« Last Edit: July 11, 2009, 10:30:37 PM by Frank »

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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2009, 08:55:12 PM »
Great! Welcome to the world of playable paksets :)

As to why it is not visible in chooser - folder being a pakset is signalled by existence of file ground.Outside.pak
(is that even valid English?)

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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2009, 09:01:53 PM »
for ground.Outside.pak extract BritGround.pak

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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2009, 09:13:13 PM »
Or just rename it :-)

Edit: Incidentally, Frank, thank you very much for fixing the sheep farm :-)

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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2009, 07:33:00 AM »
@Frank - what was the problem with sheep farms so I can fix it in the dat files?

re grounds - I had no idea, I only ever use command line as I'm on linux, will fix.  Any other issues?  I will try and release a bugfix tonight.

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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2009, 08:30:19 AM »
One other problem that I have noticed in all versions is that the ground underneath the sheep and cattle farms and oil wells does not appear correctly.

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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2009, 01:04:55 PM »
That is a long standing bug/consequence of the program code not handling draw_ground=1 properly for fields.  However the problem is resolved if you rotate the map...

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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2009, 04:36:21 PM »
@Frank - what was the problem with sheep farms so I can fix it in the dat files?
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I attached the dat file in my post

That is a long standing bug/consequence of the program code not handling draw_ground=1 properly for fields.  ...

the parameter is needs_ground

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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2009, 04:40:03 PM »
Thanks.  I meant needs_ground anyway...

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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2009, 07:16:48 PM »
What date does pak-britain officially start at? I recall this is one of the paks with victorian era stuff, but is there enough (yet) to be playable before 1900? I mean, what is the earliest date we should test from?

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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2009, 07:45:21 PM »
There is a full rail timeline for passengers and goods from 1750, and a full passenger road timeline from 1750.  Industry timeline is also from then.  However, it might not be too fun until you get a few faster things later in the game. 

I've put together a bugfix version, just waiting for somewhere to put it up...

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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2009, 08:56:58 PM »
Okay, pre 1840s is, as you say, a bit dead - resisting the temptation to talk in a northern accent ("trouble at t' mill") from overexposure to upland farms - which perversely require industrial ironways to move the freight at present. Look foreward to testing that period with later releases though once it has its complement of road vehicles (and canals/industry).

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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2009, 11:37:08 AM »
Yes, although there is coverage back to 1750 (the official start date), we will need better road transport plus boats for canals and the sea for the period before about 1830 (the dawn of the railway age) to be useful.

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Re: Release of PakBritain 1.0
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2009, 10:20:16 PM »
A new version of Pak128.Britain is now available: see the thread here. All users of Pak128.Britain are recommended to upgrade to this new version, as it contains numerous bug fixes.