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Ships for Pak128
« on: January 24, 2010, 05:45:30 PM »
I've begun to draw some new ships for the early 20th century period.
This is the first candidate, a steel/goods ship based in the Black Osprey.
It still needs some work -more details and some texturing-, but I'll try to arrange some free time for it :)

Edit: Removed images. Article and images available at my blog.
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Re: Early 20th century ships
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2010, 07:43:54 PM »
Windows look kinda strange to me, other than that a good piece of work.

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Re: Early 20th century ships
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2010, 08:59:46 PM »
The height should be cropped somewhat for final renders since the hull is not floating on surface. That is not relevant much, so I'll just say - very nice!

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Re: Early 20th century ships
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2010, 10:19:23 PM »
Windows look kinda strange to me...
Thanks. Windows will be redesigned as they look too big. Anyway they will be finally repainted with Shades, so its color may vary.

The height should be cropped somewhat for final renders since the hull is not floating on surface.
Sure. It's already a bit cropped. This preview should be for the "empty" image. It will be cropped a bit more when rendering the "full" image, so it shouldn't look like floating too much :)
What I didn't thought of is opening the cargo bays; maybe I give it a try, I'll see.

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Re: Early 20th century ships
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2010, 10:37:48 PM »
Call me crazy, but current look feels a bit too much even for empty. Maybe it is the isometric projection playing tricks with my mind... how does it look straight from side?

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Re: Early 20th century ships
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2010, 10:56:43 PM »
Here you have side previews; I've cropped it a bit more. Here you can see empty and full versions:
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Re: Early 20th century ships
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2010, 11:24:48 PM »
But that's not really bad... must be my eyes. Or maybe lack of higher structures on board?

Anyway, cropping from bottom is cheap. Let's not dwell on that now, it could be eventually the last step...

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Re: Early 20th century ships
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2010, 09:56:13 AM »
Maybe you're right. I haven't checked sizes of objects on board, but at first sight the bridge looks too small, and even the cranes do :S

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Re: Early 20th century ships
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2010, 11:00:38 PM »
Steel hauler Black Osprey updated: some more details, rescaled to definitive size, and texture improvements.

Here are previews for loaded and empty versions

And here a zoomed render

Note that it's scaled as IRL, but I usually make ships wider (50% extra) to make them fit better the pak style, so its aspect may change.
In the big render you can appreciate some more detail (and issues!!), just did it for fun :)

So, any suggestions??
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Re: Early 20th century ships
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2010, 11:15:06 PM »
I would remove the letters. They're hard to read and imho, they don't add anything special, at least as thin as they're now.

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Re: Early 20th century ships
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2010, 02:15:13 PM »
Yep, I had thought of that... actually the text is on a different layer because of that :)
Moreover, it was supposed to be used for steel and bulk cargo, so that text makes no sense anyway.

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2010, 10:27:10 AM »
I will make a full set of ships for the open version of pak128. I've begun with these two steel haulers:

* The Black Osprey, available from 1918 to 1958.

* The Edmund Fitzgerald, available from 1958.


I will work now in some passenger liners. At the moment I've almost finished the model for the first one:

* The Willamette Chief, available from 1874 to 1894.

I will make a goods version for this ship, the Willamette Chief, with some minor changes.
Hope you like them all :)
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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2010, 10:49:31 AM »
The render of the last one is simply awesome! I'm lokking forward to see them finished..  :)

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2010, 11:00:05 AM »
That may take a while. I won't build the sources until I have some models complete. I want to make enough tests and see how the ships are seen into the game; so I want to have enough ships (and different) to see if the scales are adequate, and such things. Trying to decide this with only 1 or 2 ships drawn is quite difficult and risky, so I'll wait until we have enough material to take such decisions safely :)



Goods version for the Willemette Chief, first try:

It will be available from 1874 to 1919, maybe further.
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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2010, 12:36:04 PM »
The Edmund Fitzgerald and Willemette Chief are enough to make me wonder if we shouldn't have pak128.USA ...?

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2010, 01:01:34 PM »
Those ships are great - If you do some generic/British ones I may have to pinch them for pak128.Britain*!

@wlindley,
I've always been a little surprised no-one has really tried a pak128.USA.  I think there have been a few half-hearted attempts, and there are some pak128 scale american bits lying around on the archive forum, e.g.
http://archive.forum.simutrans.com/topic/00699.0/index.html
http://archive.forum.simutrans.com/topic/05920.0/index.html
http://archive.forum.simutrans.com/topic/06454.0/index.html
http://archive.forum.simutrans.com/topic/06436.0/index.html

I'm pretty sure none of those artists are active anymore though.  For some reason simutrans has always seemed to get more interest from European contributors...


*I will ask nicely of course ;D

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2010, 08:20:47 PM »
they are awesome!

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2010, 04:14:25 PM »
Thanks fabio, The Hood & Wlindley. I'm glad you like them :)

I've already worked a bit in the next ship. It's another early passenger cruiser, mid-sized (capacity for 250 passengers) steamer, from Germany & Nederlands, I think. It's name is Freya and info can be found here:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raddampfer_Freya
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Raddampfer_Freya_Kiel2002.jpg

Latest render
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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2010, 05:11:07 PM »
Progress update:
  • Freya almost finished. Replaced red/blue colors by player color. Updated render above
  • RMS Baltic. Started this early era (~1900) big ferry, with capacity for more than 1000 psg. Almost finished, see preview below
  • Planning to draw The Balmoral, for small/mid-size passenger ferry for 1949 and after

Preview for the RMS Baltic (with player colors)
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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2010, 04:42:51 PM »
I've created the model for the MV Balmoral. Here you can see a preview

Now I will create models for the Queen Elisabeth 2 and the Zenith, so there will be 3 small and 3 big ferries. Once them are finished I'll try to make paks for all them and decide about width, weight and capacities.
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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2010, 12:29:50 PM »
I've made a little break with passenger ships (they're though!) to draw some goods ships. The first one is inspired in the Stoyko Peev, and available from 1985. Here's a peview (click to view in real "in-game" size).

Edit: Removed images. Article and images available at my blog.
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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2010, 02:09:30 PM »
I love the mix of contanier colors... :)

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2010, 07:02:44 PM »
Glad you liked it, vilvoh :)

Now comes the time for another ship: the «Patagonia» goods ship. Available for the period just before the last one, exactly from 1951 to 1986.
Here is a small preview (click the previews to enlarge images up to real-pak size). The one on the left is the "full" ship, with deck cargo bays closed and cranes down to deck level. The right one is the "empty" ship view, with deck cargo bays open (and empty) and cranes up. Hope you like it!

Patagonia Full
Patagonia Empty
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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2010, 01:49:05 PM »
After these two goods ships, it's time for a fishing boat. It's based in the Nororn, an artic fishing ship (a small fish factory) built in 1988 in Norway.

Btw, let me introduce a new web site (actually it's a blog) called Zeno's Simutrans Creations, where I will be posting all the new vehicles that I paint. The site is meant to be a private collection of all my addons and other contributions to the game, with some extra information and using an adequate layout for it (as I think the forum is not the right place for that). I will keep posting here about all my new stuff (of course), giving the needed links to the corresponding article at that site. I hope you all like the idea and also its content and appearance. Praises and critics are allowed :P

The link for the article on this new ship: See the Nororn at Zeno's Simutrans Creations.

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2010, 03:02:55 PM »
Your ships are awesome  :o

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2010, 09:34:36 PM »
Thanks gauthier, I'm really happy you like them :)

Btw, I've added and updated articles for ships posted before in this same thread: the MV Balmoral, the Stoyko Peev and the Willamette Chief. I'll try to write articles for all finished ships in this thread asap.

fixed links --VS
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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2010, 05:10:11 AM »
zeno, you got such good looking images on your blog, it's sad we can't see them that way in game. such images and a few line of text would make the depots much more userfriendly for new players, since they new immediately what they're buying. (and get some eyecandy).

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2010, 08:01:29 AM »
Thanks sdog. Bigger images look nicer until you get used to them, but I guess they won't be included in the game (and I really think they shouldn't: it's called pak128 because of the tile size!). That's one of the reasons I had to write that blog :)

PS: Thanks VS for the link fixing! The summer time change really killed me yesterday :P

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2010, 03:20:29 PM »
I didn't find where they could be downoadable  ???

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2010, 03:34:29 PM »
Oh, it's explained at the end of each article. No ships have been released yet. They will be released when a minimum consistent pak is completed.

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Added new articles in my blog for these ships:
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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2010, 09:11:10 PM »
oops, didn't read the end of each article  ;D
looking forward to the first release ;)

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2010, 09:01:36 PM »
Hi again, I'm getting slowly back to work with ships, as long as I'm starting to have few (very few indeed) free time to spend here :)
This time I worked in a bulk ship, which isn't very detailed (I think in simple concept :p), but I feel is nice enough to consider it finished.
Its name is MV Lake Illawarra, it's Australian, and it sailed between 1958 and 1975, when was sunk in the Tasman Bridge disaster.
Blog link here: MV Lake Illawarra

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2010, 09:13:09 AM »
it's a nice one, as usual ;)

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2010, 09:23:50 AM »
it's a nice one, as usual ;)
Thanks a lot, gauthier. I'm happy you like them :)

Btw, I've three more ships on the desk, which are a cooled goods ship, a tanker and a car carrier. I'll start with them as soon as I have some more time.

But there is need for ships to transport wood, grain and wool/cotton. I don't have any reference/idea to make those ships, if you have any, please make suggestions here. I've only thought of making only two ships for all these, one for wood and another for farm products. Maybe I could use a remake of the steeler Edmund Fitzgerald for the wood transport... What do you think?

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2010, 11:34:10 AM »
When searching it's probably good to replace "wood" with "lumber" since that is the least ambiguous term (imo). I got at least some useful images that way...

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2010, 02:09:51 PM »
Thanks VS. I've found some of them using lumber/timber as search strings:

The Irish Rowan, see it here.
The MV Artic Sea (small one), here.
And the Ice Prince, this one.

I'll decide later on which of them is the winner ;D

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2010, 08:21:41 PM »
My vote is for MV Artic Sea. I love the cranes that has on deck.

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2010, 09:27:00 PM »
Ok folks, after a boring sunday, there's a new ship for the pak ;D

This is the MV New Zealand Star, a refrigerated cargo vessel built in 1967 and broken up in 1993. It can be used to fill the timeline gap of the second half of 20th century.
You can see some previews and data at my blog: MV New Zealand Star article.

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2010, 10:23:10 PM »
You're really back! :D Re ship, great as always.

Here's what I liked from older periods... it's amazing how hard it is to learn about something OLD.
schooner #1
schooner #2
steamer

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #39 on: June 21, 2010, 09:19:18 PM »
Sorry, can't see the last link; it looks like broken or somewhat happened with it... btw these are quite old, it will take me a while to get to these ones, as 1900-1950 and 1950-2000 are the two main gaps in which I divided the needed timeline. Once done, I'll get to older ships :)

You should also take a look to this one, I bet you like it: The Zoroaster; it was supposed to be the first oil tanker in the world. But it looks strange to me such an earlier steamer (~1870) ...  >:/



Back to the lumber carriers...
My vote is for MV Artic Sea. I love the cranes that has on deck.
Just found a couple of nice images here, the images on the middle (the clickable ones, which are larger). These are great pics, and show the cranes that vilvoh noted... they're really nice! ;)
I'll make a version for this ship, but probably bigger than the real one (it's only 97 meters long).
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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2010, 10:24:25 AM »
Hmmm.... I just wanted to illustrate that old ships for wood look like ships with some wood on them :P

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2010, 09:13:59 PM »
Oh sure, thanks anyway :P
Actually that's what I did with the steel hauler Edmund Fitzgerald, just filled gaps with steel bars ans planks...
But as always I like to have a real vehicle to use as inspiration ;)

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2010, 05:57:50 PM »
Hi back, there's a new ship for the pak! This time is a tanker for the 1959+ timeline gap, named Nordic Heron and able to carry up to 650 m³ of petrol.
As usual, you can take a look to the ship's article at my blog.

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2010, 04:00:35 PM »
Back with a new ship. It's the Owari Maru, a newly built japanese bulk carrier (2007).
You can see pics & info in the here in my blog. Hope you like it :)

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2010, 04:03:46 PM »
Is she completely new? ;) I think there are a few differences from your old version...

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2010, 04:14:37 PM »
Yep, it's an old design I had, which has been completely re-textured, and resized to fit the pak scale... you never miss a detail! ;)

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2010, 09:26:24 PM »
Very nice.

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2010, 11:06:06 AM »
Thanks DirrrtyDirk and everybody else for you praises. I'm glad you all like the ships :)

Btw, I'd better write the current timeline/set status. I'll divide it by goods category:

Piece goods:
Ship NameIntro YearRetire YearStatus
RVg Merchant Ship18121905Existent
Willamette Chief18701920Finished
Black Osprey19181958Finished
Patagonia19511991Finished
Stoyko Peev1985-Finished
Emma Maersk2006-60%

Oil:
Ship NameIntro YearRetire YearStatus
British Premier1922-Finished
Nordic Heron1958-Finished
Batillus1976-60%
Knock Nevis1981-60%

Steel:
Ship NameIntro YearRetire YearStatus
Black Osprey19181958Finished
Edmund Fitzgerald1958-Finished

Cooled Goods:
Ship NameIntro YearRetire YearStatus
MHz Fish Trawler (fishing boat)19251964Existent
Nororn (fishing boat)1964-Finished
New Zealand Star (cooled cargo)1967-Finished

Bulk:
Ship NameIntro YearRetire YearStatus
Eaglescliffe Hall19281961Finished
Lake Illawarra19581982Finished
MV Fedra1982-Finished
Owari Maru2007-Finished

Lumber:
Ship NameIntro YearRetire YearStatus
Eaglescliffe Hall (refitted)19281961Finished
Edmund Fitzgerald (refitted)1958-Finished

Farm products:
Ship NameIntro YearRetire YearStatus
Willamette Chief (sacks, refitted)18701920Finished
Black Osprey (sacks, refitted)19181958Finished
Lake Illawarra (bulk grain, refitted)1958-Finished
Patagonia (sacks, refitted)1951-Finished

Milk:
Ship NameIntro YearRetire YearStatus
Maraki??0%

Passengers:
Ship NameIntro YearRetire YearStatus
Rvg Passenger Sailing Ship (ferry)18331901Existent
Willamette Chief (ferry)18701904Finished
Freya (ferry)19041949Finished
MV Balmoral (ferry)1949-Finished
RMS Baltic (ocean liner)19041933Finished



So, if I missed something, please warn me!
After the briefing, these are the most urgent gaps I need to fill:
  • One ocean liner, for the timeline gap after 1933
  • A ships/barges for lumber transport, for aprox. era between 1920 and 1960
  • A bulker for the gap before 1958
  • A bulker for the 1982-2007 gap
  • An old fishing ship for the gap before 1964 - Could we use MHz's existing one?
  • An early tanker, for the gap before 1958

Oppinions, suggestions, etc. are welcome :)

Edit:

Other ships that may be needed (but not so badly):
  • A couple more ocean liners for the most modern era
  • A ship/barge for lumber transport before 1928
  • A bulker for the gap before 1928[/s]
  • An even older fishing ship for the 1870 era
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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #48 on: June 26, 2010, 11:17:48 AM »
« Last Edit: June 26, 2010, 11:54:20 AM by VS »

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2010, 02:02:29 PM »
Thanks, VS. They are probably too modern for my needs, but I'll see for additional ships. For the modern bulker I've already decided to paint the spanish MV Fedra. Guess why...

Edit: The whole process!
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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2010, 02:54:50 PM »
No need to do these if you found your own! And I thought you'd give us a video of you modelling the ship :P

edit: Golden find :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunedin_%28ship%29
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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2010, 04:36:50 PM »
Wow, nice finding! Link saved ;)

Btw, the MV Fedra is ready! See article, videos and pictures at my blog. Hope you also like it!!

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #52 on: June 27, 2010, 05:07:54 PM »
Two new ships added to the repo. The early tanker (British Premier) and the early bulker (Eaglescliffe Hall), which has also a lumber version. You can see the articles at my blog:

With these two ships and all the versions (reffited ships) we have an acceptable timeline for all cargo ships, from 1920s to the end of the game. Now the most needed are ocean liners, specially modern ones, and later on some ships for the gaps between 1870 and 1920.

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #53 on: June 27, 2010, 06:11:32 PM »
When looking at your ship pack, i suspect a conspiracy between you and Prissi:

There's no denying, the both of you are about to introduce disasters and catastrophes into the game! Just look at those ships, most of them sunk, some taking whole bridges with them.

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #54 on: June 28, 2010, 03:57:39 PM »
Just look at those ships, most of them sunk, some taking whole bridges with them.
No, no way. But you have to consider that ships that sunk or collided with bridges are the most popular, and obviously is easier to find information and websites talking about them.

I'll paint now a couple of ocean liners to finish the passenger timeline. I promise there will be no Titanic! ;)

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #55 on: July 03, 2010, 04:22:15 AM »
Please someone provide me to the links where i can download this ships... Are the compressed as a single file? Cant wait to see this ship sailing....Thanks.

Please include the download link for the Big Mama - the Emma Maersk. Thank you. :D
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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #56 on: July 03, 2010, 10:05:03 AM »
I'm sorry there aren't any links yet. The set is under development, but it will be finished soon. Keep an eye over the nightly :)

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #57 on: July 03, 2010, 05:59:10 PM »
Ok, thanks, will be waiting for it. ;D

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #58 on: July 09, 2010, 08:22:47 AM »
Zeno, i saw your simutrans creations. I want to have those sets too. Where can I download it? Thanks.

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #59 on: July 09, 2010, 11:27:16 AM »
Zeno, i saw your simutrans creations. I want to have those sets too. Where can I download it? Thanks.
Some of them are already available in the current nightly version of Pak128: oil wagons, a couple of EMUs and TGVs. Ships might be included soon also (but this will have to wait until last weeks of this summer).

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« Reply #60 on: July 09, 2010, 11:56:21 AM »
Ok thank you so much !  :D

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #61 on: August 12, 2010, 05:27:39 PM »
this will have to wait until last weeks of this summer
It seems ...

two weeks are left to go - but I would to see them in next weekend nightly

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #62 on: August 12, 2010, 05:41:02 PM »
this will have to wait until last weeks of this summer
Well... err... you know... Spain is a sunny place and summer extends also to September  ;D

Just joking :P There are a couple of ships missing yet, but I guess they will be done next week. Anyway, I will wait for the pak mantainer to come back to include them, so forget about the nightly until mid/end september.

OTOH, I may consider releasing a custom Addon set of ships. But I'm sorry it won't be in next weekend, no way :(

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #63 on: August 12, 2010, 07:43:57 PM »
Well... err... you know... Spain is a sunny place and summer extends also to September  ;D

But I'm sorry it won't be in next weekend, no way :(
Of course, some years it is similar also here, in Czech republic. I think that grapes would be very good regardless of crazy weather conditions. The first grapes would be harvested around of name-day of me - it means on the 28th of September.

I am only looking forward to seeing them in game very much - and for quite long time. Next weeked (21st and 22nd of August; if you got I think weekend of 14th and 15th of August, I am sorry for I did not write it better) I am going to celebrate (haha; because I have not ever done it) my birthday.

I wish I had an idea and enthusiasm to do anything for Simutrans again. Then I would give people playing pak128 any other addon - as gift to my birthday.

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #64 on: August 15, 2010, 11:17:35 PM »
New ship done, the RMS Queen Elisabeth 2 ocean liner, and its article at my blog can be read here.

One or two car carriers are left to complete the basic pakset (minimum set to release). Some ships might be added later, but I won't make any promise about it ;)

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #65 on: April 14, 2011, 01:53:27 PM »
Zeno, i saw your simutrans creations. I want to have those sets too. Where can I download it? Thanks.

Any news on where to download the ships?  I especially like the large bulk good carriers.

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #66 on: April 14, 2011, 03:38:46 PM »
They're in the set nightlies, for some months now.

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Re: Ships for Pak128
« Reply #67 on: April 18, 2011, 05:55:09 PM »
If i can make some suggestions for new ships...

For bulk, a very old : "Pamir", for the timeline 07/1905 to 10/1957
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamir_%28ship%29 (this is the english page, but on the french page, we can see the specifications)


You didn't make any ships for cement ? For exemple, this one (sorry, french page !)
http://www.marine-marchande.net/groupe%20mar-mar/Documents/Cozanet/Cemsky/Cemsky.htm

And for milk, maybe you can use "pinardier" (wine's transport boat) ? For exemple, this one (french page), built in 1957 (inauguration 05/1957 ?)
http://www.marine-marchande.net/groupe%20mar-mar/Documents/DeBie/MaterDei/Mater-Dei.htm