some recap on somethings about addon making ...

[gauthier]

I don't find "extensive" documentation, I don't want to download sourcefiles of a complete pakset just for a question ... I touhg that the community could help me faster ...

[Combuijs]

They can... by delving into the sources. 

[gauthier]

I didn't think that a simple .dat file parameter was so difficult for everyone, but THAAAAANKS for your help.

[Isaac Eiland-Hall]

Gauthier, I don't think people are withholding information they have any easier access than the methods they've told you. If it was a simple answer not taking any time, it would have taken less time to tell you.

At least, I hope that's not how this community works - and I don't think it is.

Now, granted, someone who asks a lot of easily-answered questions may get told to go read the wiki, but I don't think that's the case here at all.

[gauthier]

Of course I looked for the answer ! I take most of informations I need on the German wiki but this one wasn't there, that's why I ask if there is a parameter for curiosities which determines if it's built on land, in a city, etc ...
Just a parameter, don't tell me it's too long to explain !

[Isaac Eiland-Hall]

I didn't say you didn't look for the answer. I was commenting on your comment:

I didn't think that a simple .dat file parameter was so difficult for everyone, but THAAAAANKS for your help.

This sounds very sarcastic and bitter to my ear. Perhaps I completely misread it.

If it *is* sarcastic, it implies that someone has the information available and was willfully withholding it from you, which I do not think is true.

Perhaps I wasn't clear when I said:

Now, granted, someone who asks a lot of easily-answered questions may get told to go read the wiki, but I don't think that's the case here at all.

But what I meant was:

In some cases, people with questions that have simple answers are not given the answer, but rather sent off to find the answer for themselves. I do not believe that is what has happened here. I do not believe anyone has a simple answer that they are not giving you.

[gauthier]

I do not believe anyone has a simple answer that they are not giving you.

no of course nobody here knows how to build curiosity 

all right VS sent me .dat files of pak128 curiosities (thanks to him).

[DirrrtyDirk]

no of course nobody here knows how to build curiosity 

I'd say that, once again sound like an unnecessary bitter / sarcastic comment. I'd say quite a few people don't know it from memory but have to go and look it up themselves (be it in the wiki or existing dat files or whatever). And to be honest, I'm usually not in the mood to go and do this "work" for someone who has been around here long enough to do it himself.

[Isaac Eiland-Hall]

Well, I'd started a discussion in the Devotee section to discuss precisely this...

Gauthier, many of us have noticed that you seem to occasionally post very sarcastic comments.

The vast majority of your posts are fine, and you are a valued member of this forum. But I'm hoping this feedback will help you in future.

[gauthier]

I post sarcastic comments when it's necessary for me.

I already spent a lot of time on wikis, if I ask a question here it's because I didn't find it in the wiki, no use to tell me two times to go and see in the wiki. I don't find nice from you that when someone has a simple question, you say him to go and find the answer himself, it's really not correct. I remember this kind of behaviour for the next time : when I have a question I won't bother you.

I think you could at least agree that you should answer me, sorry for sarcastic posts if you took them badly, it's not mean but just a way to say my disapointing seeing this.

[Isaac Eiland-Hall]

Please consider another method to express your discontent, then. It's not a personal problem for me, but one that garnered discussion among a number of people.

We want to keep this forum very friendly, and what I'm telling you is that the sarcasm you have expressed upon occasion has been found by multiple people to be problematic. Only barely enough of a problem to speak up now; but enough of a problem to speak up now, if you can see both sides of that.

[VS]

you should answer me

Would you appreciate answer "sorry, go find it yourself" ? You got that and didn't like it. So what kind of answer should be provided? And why is it that it "should" ?

What you are saying is that nobody cared for you. Unfortunately... nobody ever promised that. Wonder why? Since you want an answer, here you got a sample one for your email.

Do you know what is the metric of the parameter "animation_time" is the time of one picture or for the whole animation ?

Answer: milliseconds.

I did not know, so I opened wiki and typed that in. Voila. Do you feel that typing address and search is what we should do for you? Perhaps now you can understand why nobody wants to answer.

PS: Do you like my sarcastic comment? I don't...

[vilvoh]

Sarcasm may be dangerous, mainly because it's based on voice tone and that's something you can notice in written language. So, as Isaac said, you must be carefull when using it because that can lead to misunderstandings.

Going back to the topic, you are asking about a lot of things that are available at several Simutrans community sources. I guess you have enough experience here to know where do you have to search, but even if you don't know, please don't ask people to do what you can do with a little effort. We can suggest you to search along the wiki, but should be you who find the right page.

[gauthier]

ok sorry for sarcasm.

and for the 123th time I searched on the wiki but I don't know all of it...

I won't keep discussing on it, it's endless.