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Re: Pak 128.Britain bridges
« Reply #105 on: January 02, 2011, 02:00:44 AM »
Btw, i'm a bit confused, here in toronto cars cross the double solid yellow line all of the time. They just turn left into other streets regardless of this line. How is a "do not cross" line marked here?
Hmm, in Toronto, most of the roads with double yellow lines down the center are on higher speed roads, and usually they have a center dividing island.
Are you sure you are not mistaking them for left turn only lanes?

Then again, Toronto isn't exactly a place with good drivers.
I'd say 60% of the drivers have no idea what the road signs and markings mean, or don't see them altogether.

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some truss parts and a lower speed bridge with footpath.
Don't mind the roads, they are just graphical errors and the pillars are poking through when they shouldn't.

I'm open to colour suggestions.
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Re: Pak 128.Britain bridges
« Reply #106 on: January 02, 2011, 04:04:54 AM »
You think two lane roads are wide? This intersection near me is typical of city streets in Phoenix, which are often three lanes each way, plus at intersections two left-turn lanes and a right-turn lane.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=scottsdale+and+mcdowell,+scottsdale+az&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=en&hq=&hnear=N+Scottsdale+Rd+%26+E+McDowell+Rd,+Scottsdale,+Maricopa,+Arizona+85257&ll=33.465709,-111.926249&spn=0.001577,0.002114&t=k&z=19

Yes, that is an average city street here.  Speed limit, even in city with driveways, 45mph. Makes using a bicycle most difficult.  Amazingly, bicycling is permitted on sidewalks!  Which is illegal in most other places, surely... as endangering pedestrians.

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Re: Pak 128.Britain bridges
« Reply #107 on: January 02, 2011, 05:13:37 AM »
hehe, if i'd ever go to phoenix, i think i'd need to know it two years in advance to get a drivers license.

AEO: You're very much right there! I've fell into the trap of my own memory. When i arrived here i was quite surprised the drivers cross the solid single yellow line all of the time, which i thought was forbidden. In my memory only this part stayed and when i learned that the double line mustn't be crossed i also applied it to my memory and memorized the streets outside as having double, instead of single lines.

However i've seen the double line crossed a few times at Queens Park. And frequently from the bus outside of Downsview station, on the extension of Dufferin, Allan Road. (Checked it in street view, double line is there.)

Do(n't) laugh, but i also had a bus driver with a full bus turn around the trafic sign at the beginning of the centre dividing island in this streetview image. This happened when the driver got the bus hastily back to it's route, after he u-turned ten minutes earlier at the intersection (180 degree from point of view), parked on the pavement and went to the "on the run" shop to buy a large cup of coffee. I'm not sure but it didn't seem very much like an allowed turn. It was quite impressive though how well he could force his way into the dense traffic.
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Re: Pak 128.Britain bridges
« Reply #108 on: January 02, 2011, 05:41:33 AM »
@Sdog
sounds like good old TTC  ;D
the public transport do get special treatment with special exceptions granted by law, because they have to keep their schedule. Not that I've ever seen TTC on time.

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Re: Pak 128.Britain bridges
« Reply #109 on: January 02, 2011, 06:05:01 AM »
The TTC depends on diesel and Tim Hortons*, consequently will the city pressure ontario to make Tim also an essential service?

*Extremely ubiquitous canadian coffee shop** with at least one shop for every 10th canadian.

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Re: Pak 128.Britain bridges
« Reply #110 on: January 02, 2011, 11:13:11 AM »
I'm liking the look of the truss parts! I'm hoping that they can also be used on road bridges with different surfaces and also for rail bridges? As for colour suggestions, I suggest mid grey, dark red or dark green; lighter blue can be used for more modern (1970s onwards) bridges. This set of bridge additions is just what the pakset needed!

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Re: Pak 128.Britain bridges
« Reply #111 on: January 02, 2011, 01:47:42 PM »
@james
with all the parts made, it's just a matter of mixing and matching, and they can also be used for the rail bridges.


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Re: Pak 128.Britain bridges
« Reply #112 on: January 02, 2011, 02:16:46 PM »
Excellent!

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Re: Pak 128.Britain bridges
« Reply #113 on: January 02, 2011, 05:59:18 PM »
Nice to see some extra bridges being drawn.  My big reservation is similar to kierongreen's though - the renders from sketchup don't give a consistent look with what's already there (excellent as they are).  I've done some conversion from sketchup to blender, but it's never as easy as you think it ought to be even once you've got them in blender.  I can't help thinking it would be better to do bridges in blender from scratch and re-use existing rails and roads blender parts for consistency.  Another option for consistency is to use something like the GIMP to copy in the rail / road surface images onto an "empty" bridge rendered in sketchup (similar to how I did the canal bridges and tunnels).  Not sure how you fancy either of those ideas but I'd not want good worked going to waste simply for not being consistent with the rest of the pak graphics.

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Re: Pak 128.Britain bridges
« Reply #114 on: January 02, 2011, 06:11:05 PM »
The roads look all right as far as I can see - it's just the rail that is a little less shiny. The GIMP option might work. Alternatively, does Sketchup export to dxf, stl or VRML? Blender can import all of those formats.

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Re: Pak 128.Britain bridges
« Reply #115 on: January 03, 2011, 01:51:46 AM »
@hood
the road bridges should be a lot easier from the perspective of cutting and pasting the existing graphics than the rail bridges. Although I think the road bridges won't suffer as badly from the differences in renders, because they're flat and matte, where as the rails and ballast are 3D with mixed surfaces.

I've found a free plugin for sketchup so it can export as dxf or stl.

Do these work?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17111233/Bridges_test_dxf_stl.rar
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Re: Pak 128.Britain bridges
« Reply #116 on: January 04, 2011, 10:26:31 PM »
I found a neat photostream on flicker. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bridgink/


Some more concrete arch parts, a remake of a steel lattice and an above deck plate girder.

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Re: Pak 128.Britain bridges
« Reply #117 on: January 04, 2011, 11:18:40 PM »
I love the new steel lattice bridges!

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Re: Pak 128.Britain bridges
« Reply #118 on: January 06, 2011, 08:26:35 PM »
I really like the bottom left one - looking forward to seeing some of these in game sometime.