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Offline Reddog785

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Schools
« on: December 11, 2010, 03:53:07 PM »
I am surprised no-one has made a school for pak128.Britain. Education is compulsory here! Anyway most of the gaphics for the pak are made in Blender, which I suck at using, and it looks hard to paint a pak128.Britain graphic due to the high detail needed.

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Re: Schools
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2010, 03:57:36 PM »
I think that somebody did make a school at one point, although I'm not sure whether it was ever finished.

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Re: Schools
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2010, 03:58:44 PM »
I think that somebody did make a school at one point, although I'm not sure whether it was ever finished.

Do you have a link to the thread?

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Re: Schools
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2010, 04:47:57 PM »
I can't remember it now: I'd have to search for it.

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Re: Schools
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2010, 12:04:42 AM »
i believe this one http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=4454.msg45563#msg45563
which but unsure of status i believe jamespetts may been put that model in in one of packs

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Re: Schools
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2010, 12:19:07 AM »
The school is not in Pak128.Britain-Ex yet, as the image is not ready: it needs to be processed with tilecutter before it is used. The same applies to the stone church. If anyone cares to put them through Tilecutter (the complexities of which have so far eluded me), I'd be most grateful, and I could easily do the rest.
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Re: Schools
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2010, 09:07:21 AM »
The stone church is done (there's the download link in the last post in that topc), I use it in my games. I thought that it wasn't in the pak because it was ment ment to be an addon.

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Re: Schools
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2010, 12:09:55 PM »
The stone church is done (there's the download link in the last post in that topc), I use it in my games. I thought that it wasn't in the pak because it was ment ment to be an addon.

Do you mean this post? I had downloaded that, but the .png file was incorrect, as it had not been put through Tilecutter. There was a .pak file, but I need the sources to be able to integrate it into the pakset.

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Re: Schools
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2010, 12:57:39 PM »
i believe this one http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=4454.msg45563#msg45563
which but unsure of status i believe jamespetts may been put that model in in one of packs

Very nice but rare around here (London). Maybe I'll look into graphics drawing and attempt a smaller school?

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Re: Schools
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2010, 01:02:54 PM »
Very nice but rare around here (London). Maybe I'll look into graphics drawing and attempt a smaller school?

That would be good indeed! If you manage to work out Tilecutter, if you could have a go at cutting the existing school and church graphics, even better!

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Re: Schools
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2010, 04:46:21 PM »
Tilecutter?

Offline rsdworker

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Re: Schools
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2010, 04:51:06 PM »
Tilecutter?
a program for simutrans objects which james referring about

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Re: Schools
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2010, 04:57:35 PM »
Please, tell me more.

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Re: Schools
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2010, 05:01:17 PM »
Graphical tool that helps in making (mainly) building objects to be used in Simutrans
link: http://hd.simutrans.com/tools/?4ce34d579cf97c9cd75879d955eeea32

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Re: Schools
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2010, 02:40:44 PM »
Of course I won't immediately dive into making a school with my lack of experience, can I modify the Ford Transit into a minibus?

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Re: Schools
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2010, 09:51:56 AM »
You can do whatever you want :) - or is that a request for a blend file?

About the school, I was waiting for a snow version before including it in the pak - but development seems to have gone quiet.  Re-reading the thread, maybe Archon was waiting for snow sidewalk graphics, which I still haven't done (the joys of a never ending to-do list!)
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Re: Schools
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2010, 12:18:17 PM »
I am asking if I can modify the Ford Transit (1980's one)

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Re: Schools
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2010, 01:53:13 PM »
All pak128.Britain stuff is open source - you can modify it as long as you give credits when you redistribute.

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Re: Schools
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2010, 02:25:16 PM »
Was he possibly asking for the .blend file?

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Re: Schools
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2010, 06:49:00 PM »
So... I got blender almost workking way I want and here are the results.



I won't even try tilecutter (well I tried but it didnt work).


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Re: Schools
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2010, 01:09:46 PM »
Fantastic - I'll try and cut it and add it to the pak, but no promises - time is short!

Edit: Here it is in game - now having seen it it is clearly on a different scale than the other buildings around - the windows and floor heights are too large.  Is there any chance you could make these smaller?
« Last Edit: December 18, 2010, 02:18:34 PM by The Hood »

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Re: Schools
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2010, 05:35:50 PM »
well, My first 2x2 building and scale was probably mostly quessed.

New version with about 15% less height. Doesn't old schools have little taller rooms than residential buildings?


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Re: Schools
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2010, 06:16:19 PM »
Better, but difficult to say without seeing in game.  You right about taller floors, but in your original they are also taller than even industrial buildings which definitely looks out of place.

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Re: Schools
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2010, 08:36:31 PM »
Got that **** tilecutter workking!! it was just too picky on on wxgtk version.

Hopefully I will finish this one tomorrow.


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Re: Schools
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2010, 08:45:57 PM »
That looks excellent! Any tips for a Tilecutter newbie?

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Re: Schools
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2010, 09:03:34 PM »
thanks.

I dont really know much about tilecutter. python 2.6 and python-wxgtk2.8 are atleast required.

edit: And here it is: http://www.saunalahti.fi/jusskiiv/pak/old_school.zip



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Re: Schools
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2010, 11:45:46 PM »
Looking much better!  Going in...

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Re: Schools
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2010, 11:48:56 PM »
Excellent! Any progress on that church?

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Re: Schools
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2010, 06:45:07 PM »
Looks Nice out!

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