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Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« on: August 30, 2009, 02:05:05 PM »
Attached is a citylist file containing 523 fictionalised English style city names for use with Pak128.Britian for those who prefer fictionalised names to go with the game (I, for one, find it confusing when real names are used for towns in a fictionalised world - why should Preston be South of Dover...?). There are enough here to have large maps with no repeated names.

To use: extract the file into the /simutrans/Pak128.Britain/text folder and rename it to citylist_en.tab. Don't forget to back up your original citylist first.

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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2009, 02:10:21 PM »
I am carious, how did you generate those names?  Surely you didn't make each one up by hand.

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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2009, 02:11:53 PM »
I did, actually.

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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2009, 02:29:17 PM »
Badger's End ;-)

Dunno whether it was conscious or subconscious. :)

(Either way, a nice tribute)

EDIT: "Isaac Falls"? Oi! My balance is perfectly fine, I assure you. XD

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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2009, 02:34:19 PM »
Badger's End ;-)

Dunno whether it was conscious or subconscious. :)

(Either way, a nice tribute)

EDIT: "Isaac Falls"? Oi! My balance is perfectly fine, I assure you. XD

Even after beer? ;-)

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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2009, 02:38:47 PM »
Alcohol makes me sleepy far quicker than it would take for me to lose my balance. :D

Oh, and forgot to say, but meant to: Very very nice list. I have a hard time believing a significant portion isn't real - so I'd say it's very well done. :)

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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2009, 02:50:05 PM »
Thank you :-) There might be one or two in there that, by dint of coincidence, actually are real (in fact, it is rather improbable that there aren't any that are), but, whether coincidentally real or not, they are all invented. I rather like inventing city names, as you might see... ;-)

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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2009, 04:22:28 PM »
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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2009, 04:25:41 PM »
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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2009, 04:39:09 PM »
That's it.

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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2009, 04:42:39 PM »
Excellent!

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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2009, 03:06:59 PM »
i wanted to suggest something regarding city names for quite a while now. i really get confused in my map when glasgow is in the south and bristol in the south. therefor i rename the 5 largest cities in maps according to their position.

my suggestion is to introduce another column in the city list with a rough position. this will be used in a weighting function when city names are randomly picked during map generation.

an entry of NW would make it more likely a town in the northeaster sector of the map is named like it.

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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2010, 09:54:32 AM »
I just discovered this!  Kudos to James, and I think it bears bumping!

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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2010, 11:30:34 AM »
My new approach is to extend greatly the randomised city name generation function, which is used if there is no city lists file. With the latest version of Experimental and the accompanying configuration files, generate a new game with no city lists file and see what happens. One can get a far greater variety of names that way than by making lists (although, of course, if anyone wants to use this list, they're more than welcome to do so!).

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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2010, 09:41:19 PM »
Standard has already the possibility to make random list out of 36*36 random syllabils. That is quite a lot of names.

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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2010, 10:01:23 PM »
It is indeed. The only change that I made to this feature on Experimental was to make the possible lists longer, and actually to write a large number of plausible English-sounding parts of town names in the en.tab (that part of which should work fine with Standard).

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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2011, 03:09:49 PM »
i wanted to suggest something regarding city names for quite a while now. i really get confused in my map when glasgow is in the south and bristol in the south. therefor i rename the 5 largest cities in maps according to their position.

my suggestion is to introduce another column in the city list with a rough position. this will be used in a weighting function when city names are randomly picked during map generation.

an entry of NW would make it more likely a town in the northeaster sector of the map is named like it.

Similar things happening to me, Croydon or something is the size of a metropolis and London the size of a hamlet.

EDIT: Stupid me, I bumped this from Christmas. Sorry guys :(
« Last Edit: April 10, 2011, 03:34:54 PM by Reddog785 »

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Re: Citylist: fictionalised English style city names
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2011, 03:53:31 PM »
That is why, I think, fictional names are much more sensible.