An old version of simutrans

[kedzior687]

I am currently using an old version of Simutrans and I have one problem with it. More i build - more the game laggs. After a few days of building the save is almost unplayable. I was hoping this problem won't show up in most recent version, so I tried my saves with it, but there are working only new created maps with nothing built. How to solve this problem? Replace files or something? Help :/

There is link to my version: https://rapidshare.com/files/1175166984/simutrans_64.zip

[prissi]

New versions are not that laggy. Actually, the current version from the online installer should be able to read old games, depending on the save mode. Instead of the installer for 84.10.0 you provided, I rather need a savegame (i.e. the files names sve)

Definitely the 88.10.5 should be able to read your game. I will upload it on sourceforge tonight.

[LNBC]

Oh, my pal: it's the game I have started to play Simutrans.
It's the Version 0.84.10. Thank you very much for your attachment.

However, I am so sorry for that Simutrans have changed a lot after this Version 0.84.10. Shall I put in this way:
- Around 0.95 - 0.97 version, we have the aeroplanes and the air transport.
- Interface on vehicle/station information has changed, with a lovely route info windows added.
- You can't make the bus wait for you by TIME in Version 0.84.10: it's something started to happen after Version 0.99. (But surly you can let it wait by setting 100% full.)
- The tunnels: at Version 0.84.10, you cannot have a curved tunnel, or underground. (It's after Version 0.99 features.)
- The wildlife (The running sheep and ponds on bare ground) is NOT feature in Version 0.84.10 period - but Version 1.00 after.
- The powerlines and factories: you can't make income from transporting ELECTRICITY in Version 0.84.10.
- Monorails and flyover tracks (They are the cool things from Ver 0.98 and Ver 1.00 respectively.)
- [too much I want to tell, but time is running out.]<-Read the New Release Notice for details.

So - it included tons of recoding on program, and that's why you cannot open your old savegames in the newest version of Simutrans: there's a gap between the older version savegames and the newer program.
More, some of those transitional Simutrans version were 'wiped out' when the Official Simutrans Discussion Board relocation at around few years ago (also this Discussion Board's opening day) - it means you cannot "upgrade" your savegames by opening the nearest newer readable Simutrans program, save the savegame up, and do the same thing again before you got the newest program readable savegames converted. (That's why I also lost some savegames dated years ago.)

Well, if I were you: FORGET what you have played with Version 0.84.10; and get the newest online multi-players version to startover again. (But it also means a more demanding to your computer system. Why don't try a smaller map out for a testing, before you're really moving on for larger maps?)

BTW, I share the sorrow about your abandoning of the old savegames. But enjoying Simutrans is mainly on the creation of the transportation network, and the changes on those existing systems you have constructed. So, instead of the loss of the old savegames, I prefer new maps, or even "silly maps" created by photos I can grab and converted in ppm format.

Finally, thank you for your sharing on this old version of simutrans.
(At those times, I was still using another's vehicles, but now - I have tons of doubledeckers, and even posting some in this Board for sharing.)<-those paks works with Ver 99.00+.
Do a search within the Pak 64 addon section - It's Hong Kong local stuffes.

[kedzior687]

Oh... I found I made a mistake... That's not a problem with all saves, just this single one... I'm sorry for this little confusion.
I made a small map just to check it again. I built a few lines and it worked well with them

This error comes up:

and after pressing the key the game shuts down.

[prissi]

Could you provide me the saved game file?

[kedzior687]

Ok, but don't laugh at my method of making lines

https://rapidshare.com/files/18593622/sejwik_1.sve

[prissi]

Problem was the old filling station, which was just (1x1) instead the new size of (1x2).

Make under My Documents/Simutrans/ a folder named pak. Copy the attached file there. Now you should be able to load the old games.

For old games, start with addons for pak64, for new games without. This will automatically load the old or the new gas station.

EDIT: It will load; but you really need to use proper signals to continue this game. The last version that could stand such signalling was the 88.10.5, which I uploaded to sourceforge.

[kedzior687]

It works I'm really geateful to you, but there is one more little problem... what is sourceforge? Where can I find the version you've uploaded? I'm new here.

[Václav]

what is sourceforge?

Full name is www.sourceforge.net. It is giant repository for open-source softwares.

[kedzior687]

Oh, ok I found it