Author Topic: More city buildings (Read 146502 times)

The Hood · « **Reply #105 on:** February 24, 2010, 04:36:50 PM »

@sdog,
If 4 rotations are specified, they will be used at random on generation, so approx 25% facing any direction, and it will rotate properly. If 1 rotation is used, they will all point the same way, but when you rotate, the rest of the map buildings rotate but the church wouldn't. Hope that makes more sense.

Most churches do point East, but enough don't for me not to worry about it. Examples I can think of are Liverpool Cathedral and All Souls London, both of which point more or less north.

sdog · « **Reply #106 on:** February 24, 2010, 04:56:31 PM »

@the hood

thanks for explaining the random rotations. in that case it's impossible to align the churches properly anyway.
do you think this is worth an extension request for standard? i was missing an indicator pointing north for quite a while, geting confused when turning the map. churches could do that job in a very natural way.

i got to be carefull if i travel to england. usually i use churches to determine directions on overcast days and during nights. (i love the japanese custom of having a compas rose in front of every subway entrance!)

Archon · « **Reply #107 on:** February 24, 2010, 06:55:48 PM »

Jury decides executioner gets to work.
Stone shops and houses ready. 4 more buildings to go.

I am not getting impatient. Just starting to have fun.

Should I update my zip now or after they are all done?

If someone finds this useful, feel free to use it.

The Hood · « **Reply #108 on:** February 24, 2010, 07:01:20 PM »

Just update once they are all done. I'll include them all in the next release of pak128.Britain, which will be pretty soon after you finish them!

AP · « **Reply #109 on:** February 25, 2010, 01:00:32 AM »

Quote from: sdog on February 24, 2010, 04:12:15 PM

the offtopic that really surprises and interest me however is that many english churches don't have their apsis in the east. is this through all periods, or only for some architecural styles/aeras?

If the church was built first, or at the same time as the surrounding estate, or in its own enclosure (large churchyard), one of which is normally the case, then it will almost always face east-west. If the church is built later than the surrounding buildings, say on a constrained urban site, it will fairly often be oriented to best fit in with surrounding buildings or features (eg align with roads etc). If the church is pre-Georgian, it's a fairly safe bet it faces east-west.

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i love the japanese custom of having a compas rose in front of every subway entrance

I carry a lensatic compass in my bag at all times (both for work and for hiking), it's very handy to avoid getting lost in places like London!

wlindley · « **Reply #110 on:** February 25, 2010, 12:05:38 PM »

more on the building, (better roof texture and windows)... no progress on the surroundings yet.

The Hood · « **Reply #111 on:** February 25, 2010, 02:17:52 PM »

That's better. Just watch out for stray white pixels around the edges...

Archon · « **Reply #112 on:** February 25, 2010, 05:06:35 PM »

All buildings ready. Remembered special colors while writing this message and removed those.
http://www.saunalahti.fi/jusskiiv/pak/A_Buildings.pak.zip

Also made non-corner version of tenement and stone cottage.

haven't tested these much yet but should be ok.

wlindley · « **Reply #113 on:** February 25, 2010, 05:43:10 PM »

Archon: splendid!

The Hood · « **Reply #114 on:** February 25, 2010, 07:39:26 PM »

Excellent! Going in SVN now...

Archon · « **Reply #115 on:** March 04, 2010, 03:19:38 PM »

This is preview of my new school/prison.

it still needs lot of work.

jamespetts · « **Reply #116 on:** March 04, 2010, 03:26:53 PM »

Very much like! But "school/prison" - what are you saying about education?

The Hood · « **Reply #117 on:** March 04, 2010, 03:31:09 PM »

Very nice. I was wondering why it had gone quiet on here. I think we'll go with school rather than prison.

Archon · « **Reply #118 on:** March 04, 2010, 03:57:04 PM »

well it is supposed to be school but it looks more like prison to me. And there are gates so kids have no way to escape.

AP · « **Reply #119 on:** March 04, 2010, 04:42:12 PM »

Prisons don't generate passengers in quite the same way as schools do...

That one starts to remind me of Scotland Street School (CR MacKintosh), which has its own 'compound'

Re prisons, if you want to do one, maybe a victorian type on the radial model plan: Link

Dwachs · « **Reply #120 on:** March 04, 2010, 06:22:25 PM »

Nice building! Be it a prison or a school

But the roof looks a little bit too continuous. There should be some more contrast around the roof ridges.

Archon · « **Reply #121 on:** March 05, 2010, 05:51:58 PM »

Second take.

It looks maybe little more like school now but yard needs some details.
What do you think about those roof windows?
Second picture is first from that angle so there is still more work needed for it.

jamespetts · « **Reply #122 on:** March 05, 2010, 10:53:23 PM »

I like the roof windows...

The Hood · « **Reply #123 on:** March 06, 2010, 01:16:36 PM »

Yard details could include some things like hopscotch squares or a football goal or similar marked on the floor/wall. Roof light is a good idea, but maybe better smaller.

AP · « **Reply #124 on:** March 06, 2010, 03:54:04 PM »

Don't forget a sign out the front (the sort that would say "Anytown Grammar School" on it). That'll help too.

wlindley · « **Reply #125 on:** March 07, 2010, 02:42:57 PM »

Can't get the latest tilecutter working on my linux system (python script just returns with no display, no error), perhaps someone can take this over? gimp source

jamespetts · « **Reply #126 on:** March 07, 2010, 03:09:41 PM »

That looks beautiful - although I'd think that the graveyard would need more graves, and possibly iron railings around it, too...?

The Hood · « **Reply #127 on:** March 07, 2010, 03:34:17 PM »

I agree with jamespetts. Also leave the grass as blank and let the game fill it in with the underlying ground. I use tilecutter under wine, and it is rather tempramental. I'll have a look at it when I get time if no-one else does before me - I don't have much time for simutrans right now...

Ashley · « **Reply #128 on:** March 07, 2010, 03:39:50 PM »

Quote from: wlindley on March 07, 2010, 02:42:57 PM

Can't get the latest tilecutter working on my linux system (python script just returns with no display, no error), perhaps someone can take this over? gimp source

Could you post the tilecutter.log file? Most likely reason for it exiting so quickly is not having wxPython installed.

Nice looking church

kierongreen · « **Reply #129 on:** March 07, 2010, 03:52:52 PM »

Quote from: Archon on March 05, 2010, 05:51:58 PM

Second take.

It looks maybe little more like school now but yard needs some details.
What do you think about those roof windows?
Second picture is first from that angle so there is still more work needed for it.

Wow, just wow

I think it l looks perfect - though obviously ingame screenshot would be nice to check consistency but looks good to me!

ӔO · « **Reply #130 on:** March 07, 2010, 05:51:30 PM »

oohhh, some nice progress here

Archon · « **Reply #131 on:** March 13, 2010, 03:42:53 PM »

Some progress still little things that need work.

wlindley · « **Reply #132 on:** March 13, 2010, 04:12:33 PM »

I can almost smell the chalk and the floor-wax.

The Hood · « **Reply #133 on:** March 15, 2010, 10:27:45 AM »

Very nice indeed. I may need to ban your contributions from the pak as they are nicer than mine

kierongreen · « **Reply #134 on:** March 20, 2010, 03:39:17 PM »

Regarding the latest renders - you seem to have shadows enabled in some form. While it's a nice effect rest of renders don't have it (and it doesn't work well with the simutrans engine which is why I didn't have them to begin with).

wlindley · « **Reply #135 on:** March 28, 2010, 04:07:55 PM »

Haven't done much work on it for awhile, but for the record here's the Stone Church files (source and pak). Mostly needs ground removed (except in graveyard, where the grass is always greener) and correct fences added.

Archon · « **Reply #136 on:** April 03, 2010, 08:33:44 AM »

Little bug fix for previously released buildings.
http://www.saunalahti.fi/jusskiiv/1880-office-5f.png

Should go /citybuildings/images/com/ in svn

The Hood · « **Reply #137 on:** April 14, 2010, 09:54:14 AM »

@wlindley - link does not appear to work...

jamespetts · « **Reply #138 on:** April 14, 2010, 11:48:48 AM »

The Hood,

I have downloaded it - the revised version can be found in my Pak128.Britain-Ex Github repository.

wlindley · « **Reply #139 on:** April 17, 2010, 04:05:28 AM »

re-uploaded stone church file to correct server this time (oops).