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Title: Ikarus
Post by: IgorEliezer on December 13, 2008, 04:22:24 PM
In English:

Creating addons
:arrow: http://en.wiki.simutrans.com/index.php/Creating_addons

In German:

Entwicklung Index
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Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: TommPa9 on December 13, 2008, 04:42:25 PM
Volvo 7700A look as Solaris Urbino 18 only the lights are different. (or not?)

Volvo
(http://www.jp555.republika.pl/images/V7000A-Lodz-MPK-3742-model.gif)

Solaris
(http://www.jp555.republika.pl/images/Solaris-U18-Gliwice-PKM-43-model.gif)


Here is my version of Solaris Urbino 18. You can use this picture for your Volvo Christiansen.
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: Christiansen on December 13, 2008, 07:38:28 PM
this is the image and the pak file ? ;)
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: TommPa9 on December 13, 2008, 09:44:50 PM
Solaris pak or Volvo pak? You can download Solaris and here: http://simutrans.webz.cz/download/addons/autobusy-mhd.zip (http://simutrans.webz.cz/download/addons/autobusy-mhd.zip) but Volvo isn't ready.
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: TommPa9 on December 14, 2008, 12:05:47 PM
Here is my version of Volvo 7700A.
picture and .pak file too. I don't have time for testing, also please, if you find fall, tell it me. Is it OK Christiansen?
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: jbode on December 14, 2008, 12:45:38 PM
Thank you very much Tommy!

This is helping out with one part of Christiansen's topic. But still - Christiansen - I would like some feedback on the language/communication issue coming up here. We are a community and are willing to help further. A little more effort eases the progress we have achieved so far and we intend to continue!

Jörg
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: TommPa9 on December 14, 2008, 07:42:31 PM
No problemm but it's the last bus from my graphic factory... I like trucks... :D
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: Christiansen on December 28, 2008, 02:04:30 PM
from these pictures somebody would be top notch pak filet to make? please

obj=vehicle
cost=68000
payload=99
speed=75
weight=13
good=Passagiere
runningcost=76
name=Ikarus 263
intro_year=1999
intro_month=1
retire_year=2013
waytype=road
freight=Passagiere
engine_type=diesel
power=265
copyright=Chris
Constraint[Prev][0]=none
Constraint[Next][0]=none

emptyimage[w]=Ikarus 263.4.1
emptyimage[nw]=Ikarus 263.4.2
emptyimage[n]=Ikarus 263.4.3
emptyimage[ne]=Ikarus 263.4.4
emptyimage[e]=Ikarus 263.4.5
emptyimage[se]=Ikarus 263.4.6
emptyimage=Ikarus 263.4.7
emptyimage[sw]=Ikarus 263.4.8

----------------------------------

obj=vehicle
cost=75000
payload=112
speed=75
weight=9
good=Passagiere
runningcost=35
name=Ikarus 280.40A
intro_year=1999
intro_month=1
retire_year=2013
retire_month=1
waytype=road
freight=Passagiere
copyright=Chris
Constraint[Prev][0]=none
Constraint[Next][0]=Ikarus 280.40A zadek

emptyimage[w]=Ikarus 280.40A.7.1
emptyimage[nw]=Ikarus 280.40A.7.2
emptyimage[n]=Ikarus 280.40A.7.3
emptyimage[ne]=Ikarus 280.40A.7.4
emptyimage[e]=Ikarus 280.40A.7.5
emptyimage[se]=Ikarus 280.40A.7.6
emptyimage=Ikarus 280.40A.7.7
emptyimage[sw]=Ikarus 280.40A.7.8

----------------------------------
obj=vehicle
cost=18000
payload=35
speed=75
weight=7
good=Passagiere
runningcost=15
name=Ikarus 280.40A zadek
intro_year=1999
intro_month=1
retire_year=2013
retire_month=1
waytype=road
freight=Passagiere
engine_type=diesel
power=265
copyright=Chris
Constraint[Prev][0]=Ikarus 280.40A
Constraint[Next][0]=none

emptyimage[w]=280.40A.8.1
emptyimage[nw]=280.40A.8.2
emptyimage[n]=280.40A.8.3
emptyimage[ne]=280.40A.8.4
emptyimage[e]=280.40A.8.5
emptyimage[se]=280.40A.8.6
emptyimage=280.40A.8.7
emptyimage[sw]=280.40A.8.8

---------------------------------
obj=vehicle
cost=65000
payload=112
speed=75
weight=9
good=Passagiere
runningcost=38
name=Ikarus 280.49 - Ezüstnyíl
intro_year=1997
intro_month=1
waytype=road
freight=Passagiere
engine_type=diesel
power=180
copyright=Chris
Constraint[Prev][0]=none
Constraint[Next][0]=Ikarus Ezüstnyíl zadek

emptyimage[w]=280.49 - Ezüstnyíl.9.1
emptyimage[nw]=280.49 - Ezüstnyíl.9.2
emptyimage[n]=280.49 - Ezüstnyíl.9.3
emptyimage[ne]=280.49 - Ezüstnyíl.9.4
emptyimage[e]=280.49 - Ezüstnyíl.9.5
emptyimage[se]=280.49 - Ezüstnyíl.9.6
emptyimage=280.49 - Ezüstnyíl.9.7
emptyimage[sw]=280.49 - Ezüstnyíl.9.8

----------------------------------

obj=vehicle
cost=65000
payload=35
speed=75
weight=9
good=Passagiere
runningcost=38
name=Ikarus 280.49 - Ezüstnyíl zadek
intro_year=2005
intro_month=1
waytype=road
freight=Passagiere
engine_type=diesel
power=180
copyright=Chris
Constraint[Prev][0]=Ikarus Ezüstnyíl
Constraint[Next][0]=none

emptyimage[w]=280.49 - Ezüstnyíl.9.1
emptyimage[nw]=280.49 - Ezüstnyíl.9.2
emptyimage[n]=280.49 - Ezüstnyíl.9.3
emptyimage[ne]=280.49 - Ezüstnyíl.9.4
emptyimage[e]=280.49 - Ezüstnyíl.9.5
emptyimage[se]=280.49 - Ezüstnyíl.9.6
emptyimage=280.49 - Ezüstnyíl.9.7
emptyimage[sw]=280.49 - Ezüstnyíl.9.8

----------------------------------

obj=vehicle
cost=65000
payload=112
speed=75
weight=8
good=Passagiere
runningcost=35
name=Ikarus 280.49
intro_year=2005
intro_month=1
waytype=road
freight=Passagiere
copyright=Chris
Constraint[Prev][0]=none
Constraint[Next][0]=Ikarus 280.49 zadek

emptyimage[w]=Ikarus 280.49.10.1
emptyimage[nw]=Ikarus 280.49.10.2
emptyimage[n]=Ikarus 280.49.10.3
emptyimage[ne]=Ikarus 280.49.10.4
emptyimage[e]=Ikarus 280.49.10.5
emptyimage[se]=Ikarus 280.49.10.6
emptyimage=Ikarus 280.49.10.7
emptyimage[sw]=Ikarus 280.49.10.8

----------------------------------
obj=vehicle
cost=15000
payload=35
speed=75
weight=7
good=Passagiere
runningcost=15
name=Ikarus 280.49 zadek
intro_year=2005
intro_month=1
waytype=road
freight=Passagiere
engine_type=diesel
power=213
copyright=Chris
Constraint[Prev][0]=Ikarus 280.49
Constraint[Next][0]=none

emptyimage[w]=Ikarus 280.49.11.1
emptyimage[nw]=Ikarus 280.49.11.2
emptyimage[n]=Ikarus 280.49.11.3
emptyimage[ne]=Ikarus 280.49.11.4
emptyimage[e]=Ikarus 280.49.11.5
emptyimage[se]=Ikarus 280.49.11.6
emptyimage=Ikarus 280.49.11.7
emptyimage[sw]=Ikarus 280.49.11.8

------------------------------------

obj=vehicle
cost=65000
payload=113
speed=96
weight=8
good=Passagiere
runningcost=35
name=Ikarus 435.06
intro_year=1993
intro_month=1
retire_year=2010
retire_month=1
waytype=road
freight=Passagiere
copyright=Chris
Constraint[Prev][0]=none
Constraint[Next][0]=Ikarus 435.06 zadek

emptyimage[w]=Ikarus 435.06.14.1
emptyimage[nw]=Ikarus 435.06.14.2
emptyimage[n]=Ikarus 435.06.14.3
emptyimage[ne]=Ikarus 435.06.14.4
emptyimage[e]=Ikarus 435.06.14.5
emptyimage[se]=Ikarus 435.06.14.6
emptyimage=Ikarus 435.06.14.7
emptyimage[sw]=Ikarus 435.06.14.8

----------------------------------
obj=vehicle
cost=15000
payload=44
speed=86
weight=6
good=Passagiere
runningcost=15
name=Karosa Ikarus 435.06 zadek
intro_year=1993
intro_month=1
retire_year=2010
retire_month=1
waytype=road
freight=Passagiere
engine_type=diesel
power=189
copyright=Chris
Constraint[Prev][0]=Ikarus 435.06
Constraint[Next][0]=none

emptyimage[w]=Ikarus 435.06.15.1
emptyimage[nw]=Ikarus 435.06.15.2
emptyimage[n]=Ikarus 435.06.15.3
emptyimage[ne]=Ikarus 435.06.15.4
emptyimage[e]=Ikarus 435.06.15.5
emptyimage[se]=Ikarus 435.06.15.6
emptyimage=Ikarus 435.06.15.7
emptyimage[sw]=Ikarus 435.06.15.8

------------------------------------

is here to them the dat file

Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: Christiansen on December 29, 2008, 01:10:30 AM
 :'(
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: Combuijs on December 29, 2008, 08:11:27 AM
Quote:'(

Well, you can cry, but I'm afraid most of the work goes into making all the views of the busses (16 per bus?). They can't be derived from the pictures you gave. Do you have a 3D-model of them?
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: DirrrtyDirk on December 29, 2008, 11:11:15 AM
Well, it's actually "only" 8 views that are needed for most vehicles (can become more when they have different graphics for being loaded than for being empty, and in some cases only 4 may be enough), but those 8 views are needed to make a pak file. From the pictures you posted we simply cannot create a pak file.
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: vilvoh on December 29, 2008, 11:28:24 AM
Well I guess Combuijs means 8 views x two sections per bus = 16 views..Anyway Christiansen, if you have the dat file with the attributes and you also have some sample graphics, what does exactly stop you? I mean, why don't you start painting them using TommPa9 Volvo 7700A png as a sample?
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: Christiansen on December 29, 2008, 12:35:12 PM
is not I cannot make the pictures its I loaded it up here maybe somebody can help
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: vilvoh on December 29, 2008, 01:01:02 PM
But why do you exactly can't do it?  don't you have painting skills? patience enough? skills? knowledges? or you're just too lazy to do it yourself.. ;)  We can help you to deal with all except the last one.

P.S: The worst part of asking others is they can reject or just ignore your request, so I think it's a good ocasion to learn. come on!
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: Christiansen on December 29, 2008, 01:52:02 PM
in this manner good?

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Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: DirrrtyDirk on December 29, 2008, 02:18:20 PM
You don't understand a single word people tell you, right?
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: Christiansen on December 29, 2008, 11:09:29 PM
help pls
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: DirrrtyDirk on December 30, 2008, 01:25:00 AM
Ok, as simple as I can (I even tried online translation for English->Hungarian for a couple of sentences):

It is not possible to make a pak file from your pictures.
Ez nem lehetséges térképet csinálni pak reszelő -ból -a mozi. (?)
Your pictures -> pak file = Not possible! Nobody can do that. Even if you plead 100 times more...
-a mozi -> pak reszelő = Nem lehetséges! (?)


And I doubt you will find someone to volunteer and draw all these buses completely for you, given the current level of activity here... so how to put that simple?

All new pictures = Too much work. Probably nobody wants to do.
Minden új mozi = Túl sok dolgozik. Talán senki nem akarja így csinálni. (?)

Sorry to say this but your level of English really appears not to be sufficient for the communication that would be required by your inquiries and requests.
Ön szükség jobb Angol -hoz beszélgetés itt. (?)
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: jbode on January 07, 2009, 08:42:41 AM
Also, please consider whether there is a need for an "endless" number of subtypes with different paint applied ... More useful would be filling the gaps in the list of available vehicles.

But again Christiansen, please read the information about creating suitable graphics and try ... yourself. This might take a while, but will help!
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: Christiansen on January 10, 2009, 10:56:32 PM
who can do buses to the game it look up into private one by Chris
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: Christiansen on January 11, 2009, 04:16:25 PM
somebody would get it over with to write the makeobj his function?
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: Christiansen on January 12, 2009, 02:26:08 AM
Ikarus 435 pak files make? I would like it into the game to make that city where I live its I need these vehicles I ask you help I say thank you for it
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: Christiansen on January 12, 2009, 02:27:02 AM
Ikarus 280 pak files make? I would like it into the game to make that city where I live its I need these vehicles I ask you help I say thank you for it
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: Christiansen on January 12, 2009, 01:10:27 PM
I would like it into the game to make that city where I live its I need these vehicles I ask you help I say thank you for it
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: Christiansen on January 12, 2009, 01:18:07 PM
I would like it into the game to make that city where I live its I need these vehicles I ask you help I say thank you for it
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: Christiansen on January 12, 2009, 01:27:53 PM
I would like it into the game to make that city where I live its I need these vehicles I ask you help I say thank you for it
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: sojo on January 12, 2009, 01:33:29 PM
Why make you not only one thread?

For what Pakset should it be?

And try to paint it by your self!? Have you a source for a bus? Its not so difficult to paint some cars with a good template.
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: Christiansen on January 12, 2009, 01:43:17 PM
and with a what kind of program it is possible to sketch it? does not really hit me neither the drawing the pak making that of this I put it up here maybe somebody helps
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: jbode on January 12, 2009, 01:48:43 PM
Please read the forum. There is a lot of information about makeobj.
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: sojo on January 12, 2009, 01:57:00 PM
You need a png image like this or a bit other. http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=553.msg4473#msg4473

That you can paint with GIMP, paint, Photoshop or what you have.
Title: Re: Re: Hungarian language, players from Hungary - (WAS: Volvo 7700A)
Post by: Kristian on January 12, 2009, 01:58:35 PM
You need to draw the vehicles isometrically. Like so:
http://en.wiki.simutrans.com/index.php/Creating_addons
http://en.wiki.simutrans.com/index.php/Image_style_guide

Examples of the 'real' images can be found here (for pak 64):
http://simutrans.svn.sourceforge.net/
http://simutrans.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/simutrans/pak64/vehicle/road/buessing_mhz.png?revision=19&view=markup
Title: Re: Ikarus
Post by: Christiansen on February 07, 2009, 10:17:16 PM
this good or big?
Title: Re: Ikarus
Post by: Christiansen on February 07, 2009, 10:49:34 PM
big  :'(
Title: Re: Ikarus
Post by: vilvoh on February 08, 2009, 12:20:26 AM
True, but it's a begining.... ;)
Title: Re: Ikarus
Post by: TommPa9 on February 08, 2009, 10:57:07 AM
I don't know which type of bus is it, but this picture is a little big. You can look here (http://graphics.simutrans.com/thumbnails.php?album=32). There is a paar of examples my busses. And your bus can looked maybe as this bus:
Title: Re: Ikarus
Post by: Christiansen on February 08, 2009, 01:00:34 PM
I tried to draw this with few successes ;D
Title: Re: Ikarus
Post by: The Hood on February 08, 2009, 01:11:21 PM
I recommend using Blender to draw.  You can draw in 3D easily using blender - it is easy to get each side right in 2D and then do the other side.  You can scale it to the right size too.

www.blender.org
Title: Re: Ikarus
Post by: Christiansen on February 14, 2009, 02:17:43 PM
Good images