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Simutrans Extended => Simutrans-Extended development => Topic started by: greenling on August 09, 2012, 04:11:06 PM

Title: Request: timetabling and Wackdone's patch
Post by: greenling on August 09, 2012, 04:11:06 PM
James it Posible to build in a Patch from Wackdone in Simutrans Exp?
http://forum.japanese.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=511.msg2636#msg2636 (http://forum.japanese.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=511.msg2636#msg2636)
http://forum.japanese.simutrans.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=511.0;attach=637 (http://forum.japanese.simutrans.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=511.0;attach=637)
I have be test it and i find it be usefull.

Mod note: This topic has been split from the discussion of the release candidate here (http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=10145.0).
Title: Re: Request: timetabling and Wackdone's patch
Post by: jamespetts on August 09, 2012, 08:17:30 PM
Greenling - I don't understand what you mean, I'm afraid. What do you mean by "build in a patch from" here?
Title: Re: Request: timetabling and Wackdone's patch
Post by: Junna on August 09, 2012, 09:01:27 PM
Quote from: jamespetts on August 09, 2012, 08:17:30 PM
Greenling - I don't understand what you mean, I'm afraid. What do you mean by "build in a patch from" here?

I'm not sure what greenling means, but links to a page discussing some sort of timetabling/spacing patch and a link to said patch from what I can gather. At the risk of speaking in someone's mouth, perhaps he/she is asking if something can be implemented from this?
Title: Re: Request: timetabling and Wackdone's patch
Post by: kierongreen on August 09, 2012, 09:03:48 PM
I thought experimental had timetabling/spacing in already anyway though...
Title: Re: Request: timetabling and Wackdone's patch
Post by: jamespetts on August 09, 2012, 09:04:19 PM
We do indeed have an element of timing and spacing. Full timetabling would be too fiddly, I think.
Title: Re: Request: timetabling and Wackdone's patch
Post by: greenling on August 09, 2012, 09:28:07 PM
The Timeing of Vehicles to a timetable in Simuntrans EXp it hard to use.
By the patch of Wackdone it the setting of a timetable lighter.
Title: Re: Request: timetabling and Wackdone's patch
Post by: jamespetts on August 09, 2012, 09:40:38 PM
Hmm - that looks more more complicated, not simpler, than the system currently in Experimental; but this is a very large topic and not really directly related to the release candidate. The topic will be split.

Edit: I should be interested in people's views on this rather expansive topic, however.
Title: Re: Request: timetabling and Wackdone's patch
Post by: Junna on August 09, 2012, 10:11:49 PM
I'm not entirely sure I understand how it works, but I do like its depth and detail with the time-calculation. I am sure something could be learned from it, it might be an interesting feature to add (as an optional thing).
Title: Re: Request: timetabling and Wackdone's patch
Post by: jamespetts on August 09, 2012, 11:16:52 PM
I worry that all but hard-core users might find it offputting, especially if playing in a multiplayer game where some users use it to gain an advantage that can only be gained by using it, forcing players to use it in order to compete even if they find it tiresome.
Title: Re: Request: timetabling and Wackdone's patch
Post by: Junna on August 09, 2012, 11:47:59 PM
Quote from: jamespetts on August 09, 2012, 11:16:52 PM
I worry that all but hard-core users might find it offputting, especially if playing in a multiplayer game where some users use it to gain an advantage that can only be gained by using it, forcing players to use it in order to compete even if they find it tiresome.

I struggle to think of a situation where this could be so beneficial as to imbalance a multiplayer game; but, should it be so, perhaps it could be fixed with a feature it to be disabled upon game-creation by the host/server?
Title: Re: Request: timetabling and Wackdone's patch
Post by: Carl on August 10, 2012, 08:13:22 AM
On first glance this looks even more fiddly than simply using convoy spacing + offset to yield a similar result -- which is slightly fiddly, but perfectly do-able with current versions of Experimental. It's already possible to create a makeshift "timetable" with these features, though you won't be able to display it in the UI quite like that.
Title: Re: Request: timetabling and Wackdone's patch
Post by: greenling on August 10, 2012, 12:19:01 PM
For All they have problems with the Patch!
I make a Video how to use the Idea from Wackdone!
Video under development!