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Development => Extension Requests => Topic started by: Yona-TYT on August 20, 2013, 05:42:12 AM

Title: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: Yona-TYT on August 20, 2013, 05:42:12 AM

are those little things that make a game look great
(http://imageshack.us/a/img708/9222/q52.gif)
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9851/tbso.png)
@Max-Max, hope this  him an big idea ....... Greetings!
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: Fabio on August 20, 2013, 08:11:38 AM
load/save thumbnail? a good idea.
saving procedure should take and save in an easily retrievable way a game screenshot.
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: Max-Max on August 20, 2013, 11:30:47 AM
It is a great feature but I don't see this as a theme/gui class related proposal.
I'm focused on themes and this also leads to some gui implementation in the sense of a new gui class hierarchy.

I think your proposal will fall under extension requests and I think I have seen this as an todo or accepted request somewhere (I can't find it now though)...
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: Fabio on August 20, 2013, 11:59:29 AM
split and moved accordingly
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: Yona-TYT on August 20, 2013, 12:47:17 PM

Quote from: Max-Max on August 20, 2013, 11:30:47 AM
I think your proposal will fall under extension requests and I think I have seen this as an todo or accepted request somewhere (I can't find it now though)...



is fine @Max Max :thumbsup:


remember that these features are of simutrans experimental and the Iron Bite
what I mean is that this would be great in standard simutrans 8)
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: Ters on August 20, 2013, 02:43:17 PM
Quote from: Fabio on August 20, 2013, 08:11:38 AM
load/save thumbnail? a good idea.
saving procedure should take and save in an easily retrievable way a game screenshot.

This wasn't about save games, was it? Seems to be about pak sets, and it's certainly easier to make a recognizable thumbnail for them. Especially if most save games are just different saves of the same map.
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: Fabio on August 20, 2013, 04:44:20 PM
well both would benefit from thumbnail...

pak selection images should be provided by pakset authors, whereas saves images could be captured and stored in the save before saving.
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: Yona-TYT on August 20, 2013, 05:22:14 PM

Quote from: Fabio on August 20, 2013, 08:11:38 AM
load/save thumbnail? a good idea.
if we look back we find this theme (forgotten to long ago by certain)


http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=10205.msg96957#msg96957 (http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=10205.msg96957#msg96957)


(http://imageshack.us/a/img5/2416/tig0.jpg)
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: Ters on August 20, 2013, 05:34:56 PM
Automatically creating a recognizable screenshot for a map might be difficult. The user might have to take it manually in order to get something useful. Just using the minimap shouldn't be too difficult, if it helps.
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: kierongreen on August 20, 2013, 07:55:31 PM
Previews of saved games are possible based on the heightmap. Screenshots on the pak selection screen also possible - but I wouldn't want to directly copy Ironbite as someone might accuse us of using their code...
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: isidoro on August 21, 2013, 12:04:51 AM
Isn't Ironbite free software?  Free software is, by its definition, to be copied...
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: Yona-TYT on August 21, 2013, 01:11:57 AM
all sourceforge project are open source or not? ???
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ironsimu/files/
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: Ters on August 21, 2013, 04:32:39 AM
Legally, yes, but this is complicated and emotion based.
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: greenling on August 21, 2013, 03:24:57 PM
Hello All
The Devloper from Those projekt can you only reach over the German Simutrans forum.
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: IgorEliezer on August 21, 2013, 03:53:51 PM
Quote from: Ters on August 20, 2013, 05:34:56 PM
Just using the minimap shouldn't be too difficult, if it helps.
Every time you save a world, a png file is generated "from" the minimap with cities and ways, if it's not too much resource-consuming.
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: kierongreen on August 21, 2013, 04:34:18 PM
Many other games also include a screenshot of the worldview taken at time of saving as well.
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: Yona-TYT on August 21, 2013, 04:51:48 PM

Quote from: greenling on August 21, 2013, 03:24:57 PM
Hello All
The Devloper from Those projekt can you only reach over the German Simutrans forum.




has long since "Hajo (http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?action=profile;u=3)" is not active around here
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: prissi on August 26, 2013, 08:44:44 PM
Yes, but as said, legally and morally are two entirely different pieces of cake. Also such screenshots needs to be added also to closed source paksets ...

Preview games is very easily possible; but this will again require to parse a quite large files at the beginning. Thus opening a folder and parsing 100 existing games may easily take hours when doing it for the first time or the savegame version is updated. Or one has to show a placeholder for the older savegames.
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: Yona-TYT on August 26, 2013, 09:13:19 PM

A button like this in every savegame


the player will have the option to show or hide the properties of the game ;)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1157419_618135534893424_360727958_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Thumbnails for load/save dialog.
Post by: IgorEliezer on August 26, 2013, 10:43:13 PM
Yeah, a thumbnail from the spot where you're hovering the cursor when you save the game. Pretty clever.