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Title: [r7373] Elevated ways on one-level-deep lake
Post by: gauthier on November 22, 2014, 06:08:29 PM
Simutrans 120.0.1, with pak128 2.5.2

Impossible to build elevated ways on one-level-deep lakes but ont its northern and western edges. It is still possible to build elevated ways on one-level-deep sea.

(http://www.simutrans-france.fr.nf/data/media/pics/bug_01.jpg)
Title: Re: [r7373] Elevated ways on one-level-deep lake
Post by: Ters on November 22, 2014, 08:29:22 PM
A side effect of what is considered the height of slopes perhaps? That would make sense if the height of the north-western corner is considered, which is the most natural of the four corners.
Title: Re: [r7373] Elevated ways on one-level-deep lake
Post by: gauthier on November 22, 2014, 08:56:54 PM
Indeed though it is still annoying.
Title: Re: [r7373] Elevated ways on one-level-deep lake
Post by: prissi on November 27, 2014, 10:57:06 PM
The reason is that most of such a lake has a depth of 1 or higher only near the corner. If the lake would have regular side slopes (i.e. lower it once), then it would have much more of shallow water. This is a side effect of flat shores. I see no easy way out here.
Title: Re: [r7373] Elevated ways on one-level-deep lake
Post by: Ters on November 28, 2014, 05:57:32 AM
Quote from: prissi on November 27, 2014, 10:57:06 PM
The reason is that most of such a lake has a depth of 1 or higher only near the corner. If the lake would have regular side slopes (i.e. lower it once), then it would have much more of shallow water. This is a side effect of flat shores. I see no easy way out here.

I don't quite follow. Wouldn't this lake be one tile deep in the middle, surrounded by slopes up to the surface?
Title: Re: [r7373] Elevated ways on one-level-deep lake
Post by: prissi on November 28, 2014, 10:03:21 PM
If you sink the water level of a lake so it has sloped shores, then there is lot of flat area around. But currently lakes are flooded until a slope. That means any tile one from the beach is already a deep tile. Drain a lake (with control) and see what I mean.
Title: Re: [r7373] Elevated ways on one-level-deep lake
Post by: Ters on November 29, 2014, 12:28:16 AM
If you can (or are supposed to be allowed to) build elevated roads over one level deep water, that might lead to odd results if the lake is drained afterwards.
Title: Re: [r7373] Elevated ways on one-level-deep lake
Post by: gauthier on November 29, 2014, 11:49:15 AM
Quote from: prissi on November 28, 2014, 10:03:21 PM
If you sink the water level of a lake so it has sloped shores, then there is lot of flat area around. But currently lakes are flooded until a slope. That means any tile one from the beach is already a deep tile. Drain a lake (with control) and see what I mean.
It's the same for seas, but we can build elevated stuff on 1-level deep seas :/