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Title: Removal of world record speeds?
Post by: freddyhayward on January 23, 2020, 07:10:30 AM
I have just removed all world record functionality and mentions from the code in this pull request: https://github.com/jamespetts/simutrans-extended/pull/127. Personally, I find them annoying. Does anyone here appreciate the feature, or find it useful or fun? Would anyone object to it being gone?
Title: Re: Removal of world record speeds?
Post by: Phystam on January 23, 2020, 07:14:52 AM
I agree. Sometimes they are very verbose (especially at the beginning of the game), and the system of world records is not economical, so the system not good for Extended.
Title: Re: Removal of world record speeds?
Post by: RESTRICTED ACCOUNT on January 23, 2020, 08:54:36 AM
Certainly it is annoying like spam, but I think the problem is that the record is reset. (every time you launch the game?)
It wouldn't seem annoying if it only appeared if it really set a new world record in the game.
On the other hand, it remains questionable whether the save is worth including that data and whether it involves the coding effort...
Title: Re: Removal of world record speeds?
Post by: jamespetts on January 23, 2020, 01:33:20 PM
The world records were in the past used by Standard to calibrate the speed bonus, but this changed long ago when it was realised that very fast aircraft (e.g. Concorde) made the system unworkable. They have been retained as a purely cosmetic feature, but, as Ranran points out, these data are not saved.

The speed records measure the fastest service speed in game for each waytype (e.g. rail, tram, narrowgauge, water, air, etc.). This is not the way in which speed records are normally dealt with in real life.

Can anyone think of a good reason for retaining these? If not, I am minded to adopt the patch.
Title: Re: Removal of world record speeds?
Post by: wlindley on January 23, 2020, 01:40:22 PM
+1 for Remove. They add nothing to game play and are confusing.
Title: Re: Removal of world record speeds?
Post by: Elemental on January 23, 2020, 01:44:08 PM
I am also for removing them. If they were not reset, they would be interesting.
Title: Re: Removal of world record speeds?
Post by: Mariculous on January 23, 2020, 01:47:12 PM
If they were stored, thus not spamming world records after each reload, they would at least be a useless fun feature.
The way they are implemented, they are just spam, so +1 for remove and +1 for store and retain. Either of them is fine.
Title: Re: Removal of world record speeds?
Post by: Matthew on January 23, 2020, 03:13:56 PM
No strong opinion on this.
Title: Re: Removal of world record speeds?
Post by: Vladki on January 23, 2020, 03:30:07 PM
Same as others, either save the past records, or remove them.
Title: Re: Removal of world record speeds?
Post by: Ves on January 23, 2020, 03:52:05 PM
I agree with the rest, remove or save the speeds.
Title: Re: Removal of world record speeds?
Post by: jamespetts on January 24, 2020, 11:26:51 AM
I have now merged Freddy's patch for removing these. Thank you all for the feedback and to Freddy for the implementation.