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Title: Passenger classes and road speeds in pak128 Japan
Post by: Antonin on May 14, 2026, 07:30:54 PM
I am once again playing around with pak128 Japan. Does anyone know why there are passenger classes (class 1 and class 2) and why roads only have a top speed of 30 km/hr, even when the start year is 2010?

I understand that pak128 Japan is not complete (there are very few buses and trucks available), but I wonder if anyone is trying to play it, and if so, do they have any tips?
Title: Re: Passenger classes and road speeds in pak128 Japan
Post by: 1993matias on May 14, 2026, 07:49:47 PM
Passenger classes is to try to give some semblance of different passenger types. Instead of mail there are 1st class passengers
Title: Re: Passenger classes and road speeds in pak128 Japan
Post by: prissi on May 14, 2026, 11:59:22 PM
Also Japan roads without center line are max speed 30 and with max speed 60 km/h (in gray theory at least). Inofficially, you are not fined unless 30 km/h faster than indicated ... (at least they told that in driving school to my daughter.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_Japan
Title: Re: Passenger classes and road speeds in pak128 Japan
Post by: poppo on May 15, 2026, 03:35:48 AM
you can define intercity_road and city_road in simuconf.tab.
if you want to update default intercity road, please write this in pak128.Japan/simuconf.tab

In addition, today's speed limit of japanese intercity road (not Highway) is usually 60km/h.
intercity_road[0] = douro030,0,1960
intercity_road[1] = douro060,1960,2500
Title: Re: Passenger classes and road speeds in pak128 Japan
Post by: Antonin on May 19, 2026, 10:29:35 PM
Quote from: poppo on May 15, 2026, 03:35:48 AM...if you want to update default intercity road, please write this in pak128.Japan/simuconf.tab

In addition, today's speed limit of japanese intercity road (not Highway) is usually 60km/h.
intercity_road[0] = douro030,0,1960
intercity_road[1] = douro060,1960,2500


I'm sorry, but for some reason I can't find pak128.Japan/simuconf.tab

I installed the game using the installer. It has placed game files in "Documents" and "Program Files (x86)." Neither of those places has pak folders.
Title: Re: Passenger classes and road speeds in pak128 Japan
Post by: prissi on May 20, 2026, 03:20:32 AM
The pak folders are in the hidden folder "program data".

But you can create the folder in documents/simutrans/addons/pak128.japan/config and put a simuconf.tab there (and load with addons)
Title: Re: Passenger classes and road speeds in pak128 Japan
Post by: Antonin on May 21, 2026, 10:17:52 PM
Quote from: prissi on May 20, 2026, 03:20:32 AMThe pak folders are in the hidden folder "program data".

I found it in the "program data" folder. Thank you! I was able to change the default intercity road speed to 60 km/hr. I'm glad that I did not break the game!  :)

But I'm curious about why there are 2 classes of passengers, and why none of them are interested in going anywhere.

I know this great game is a volunteer project, but there are so few vehicles in pak128 Japan and I have a hard time figuring out how to add new trucks and buses.
Title: Re: Passenger classes and road speeds in pak128 Japan
Post by: poppo on May 22, 2026, 04:42:12 AM
"1st-class passenger" in pak128.Japan is a translation of "Post". As rail-based postal services have declined in Japan today, these carriages have been allocated exclusively for 1st-class passengers ("Green Cars"). The fare is set higher than the standard 'Passagiere' fare.

If you want to add 1st-class car, please set goods name as "Post".
Title: Re: Passenger classes and road speeds in pak128 Japan
Post by: Isaac Eiland-Hall on May 22, 2026, 10:10:43 AM
I didn't realize pak128.Japan was sexist/misogynist. You mean to tell me first class is mail-only? ;-)
Title: Re: Passenger classes and road speeds in pak128 Japan
Post by: poppo on May 23, 2026, 02:22:13 AM
If you add another pakset's mail vehicle in pak128japan, "first-class passengers" get on the mail cars ;) .
Conversely, if you place a pak128japan first-class vehicle in another pakset, it will carry post ;).

Well, players only see the names specified in the translation files, not the actual goods desc names.