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Title: Highspeed Rail in United States?
Post by: Enlighthell on November 14, 2010, 08:40:38 AM
Hi. i wanted to share this with people  :)
I live in United States and I like trains  ;) but there is just one "high-speed" trains in the whole country.(Acela Express) but sucks! it only goes 240 km/h

So I was in youtube and saw something about a speech of the president about funds to make a highspeed rail. So then I when to google and typed "high-speed train in California" because I live in California and a cool website came out http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/ (http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/) and I couldnt believe my eyes!
The rail is going to go from San Francisco to San Diego! It will go up to 220mph(350km/h) And a trip of 8 hours in car from San Francisco to Los Angeles will only be 2 hours and 40 minutes. The section from San Francisco to Los Angeles is planned to start working at 2020.
I know there arent many people from United States here but I wanted to share this with everyone.  :-*
Title: Re: Highspeed Rail in United States?
Post by: Isaac Eiland-Hall on November 14, 2010, 10:13:35 AM
The high speed rail referred to in Obama's speech is actually going to be the Tampa/Orlando corridor in Florida.
Title: Re: Highspeed Rail in United States?
Post by: wlindley on November 14, 2010, 10:18:41 AM
Fast trains alone do nothing.   Japan, France, and other countries with fast trains, all have regional networks of local trains, subways, and trolleys to move people around within their cities.  America doesn't have these networks.  Los Angeles has a few subway lines and a decent local-train network (Metrolink) as does San Francisco, but those are rare exceptions in the West.

The proposed Florida system actually *avoids* existing Amtrak stations! 

Tampa has a tram line, and Orlando plans a local ("commuter") train network, but the "high speed" trains would not connect with any of these!

Such stupidity is a recipe for disaster, written by folks who do not understand trains.
Title: Re: Highspeed Rail in United States?
Post by: Qayyum on November 14, 2010, 01:22:52 PM
I really hope that someone who planned this high speed rail in US had played Simutrans. :P
Title: Re: Highspeed Rail in United States?
Post by: greenling on November 14, 2010, 01:59:28 PM
I hope that the  Highspeed Rail System growe up in United States.
I hate be hear that some Airports and Some Highways in the usa nearly be get too overlaod of use.
I find that´s the usa to make a step too open for new transportsystems.
And i hope that this new Transportsystems be getting as modell for simutrans.

greenling
Title: Re: Highspeed Rail in United States?
Post by: prissi on November 14, 2010, 08:44:44 PM
In 1998 already they run at 100 mph between san diego and los angles (on really not the best tracks). Just refurbish those would get you easily to any speed you like as it is straight and flat (along the coast). Los Angles to San Francisco is a little more challenging, depending on the proposed route.

I wonder, why not going the easy way for those routes, as with such high speed you replace planes, not cars.

(As to Isaacs comments: Even current Amtrak station in Tampa is not connected to the Tram system, which only runs from 11am to 11pm and is useless as a commuter system. Since current Tampa station is located in a no go area [I can confirm this classification, albeit we went there by group around 4pm], putting the station elsewhere is not such a bad idea. Upon reading the information on their homepage: The new station will be close to Amtrak. [Albeit one of the streets they give, even google does not know ... ])
Title: Re: Highspeed Rail in United States?
Post by: sdog on November 14, 2010, 11:31:39 PM
Tampa - Orlando: 130 km that'd be a nice fast local rail...
Title: Re: Highspeed Rail in United States?
Post by: Enlighthell on November 16, 2010, 12:18:42 AM
Quote from: Isaac.Eiland-Hall on November 14, 2010, 10:13:35 AM
The high speed rail referred to in Obama's speech is actually going to be the Tampa/Orlando corridor in Florida.

yeah I know but then I went into google and found the project in California :)