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Title: How to use trams?
Post by: jorrit on October 30, 2008, 05:20:42 AM
Hi all,

I'm playing nightly version of simutrans 100.1-2076 with matching pak128.

I can't figure out how to build trams. I put a 'concrete_tram_track' network on my city roads and now I'm trying to build a tram remise on top of that but the game will not let me. It says that I can't put a remise there. So what can I do?

Greetings,
Title: Re: How to use trams?
Post by: vilvoh on October 30, 2008, 07:48:06 AM
Have you electrified the whole tram track network, including the tram track where the tram depot is placed?
Title: Re: How to use trams?
Post by: jorrit on October 30, 2008, 08:06:52 AM
Quote from: vilvoh on October 30, 2008, 07:48:06 AM
Have you electrified the whole tram track network, including the tram track where the tram depot is placed?

At first I didn't but I did afterwards but it didn't help.

Here is the screenshot of what I'm trying to do (just a test setup, this is not a realistic tram network). I tried to put the remise either at the end of the circuit but also at other spots. None works.

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3661/simscr00zd6.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3661/simscr00zd6.jpg)


Greetings,
Title: Re: How to use trams?
Post by: vilvoh on October 30, 2008, 08:32:28 AM
The remise, what I guess is the tram depot, must be at the end of a track of any type. You can't put a depot in the middle of a road, although the end of a tram track is located there.
Title: Re: How to use trams?
Post by: jorrit on October 30, 2008, 08:36:03 AM
Ok, I had tried that too. Here is a new screenshot showing how that doesn't work either:

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8076/simscr00cr4.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8076/simscr00cr4.jpg)

Greetings,
Title: Re: How to use trams?
Post by: ML on October 30, 2008, 09:36:34 AM
Try to build depot on free place, not on a road, just like in the picture.

By the way, It is possible to build depot on a road? I thought Simutrans dont let you to do it :o
Title: Re: How to use trams?
Post by: jorrit on October 30, 2008, 10:30:06 AM
Quote from: panda on October 30, 2008, 09:36:34 AM
Try to build depot on free place, not on a road, just like in the picture.

By the way, It is possible to build depot on a road? I thought Simutrans dont let you to do it :o


Ah thanks. That worked! I thought that the depot had to be on the road since I assumed the tram tracks had to be on the road as well. Normal bus depots you have to build on a road.

Greetings,
Title: Re: How to use trams?
Post by: prissi on October 30, 2008, 10:30:38 AM
Simutrans don't let you do this in more recent versions to avoid trucks entering a tram depot and crashing the game ...
Title: Re: How to use trams?
Post by: jorrit on October 30, 2008, 11:16:56 AM
I have one further question. It seems that I can only make tram tracks that go up to 80km/h (even when electrified). However there are trams (like the T_110A) that can do 110km/h. How can I use these trams upto optimal speed?

Greetings,
Title: Re: How to use trams?
Post by: ML on October 30, 2008, 11:28:20 AM
The only way is to use railway track, where possible (etc. between city and harbour as you can see on the screen > http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tramis3.png)
You just have to connect tram and railway track and thats all. But remember - you cant build railway track on a road, also you wont propably use this very often...
Title: Re: How to use trams?
Post by: emaxectranspoorte on January 05, 2009, 07:44:00 AM
I have seen concrete tram tracks, you know... ::)
Title: Re: How to use trams?
Post by: jkund17 on October 29, 2010, 03:40:33 AM
why aren't trams affected by city traffic? All my trams just drive right thru city cars.
Title: Re: How to use trams?
Post by: Spike on October 29, 2010, 10:01:09 AM
I'd assume this is done on purpose to give trams an advantage over buses. IIRC the trams are supposed to drive in the middle of the road, between the car traffic lanes.
Title: Re: How to use trams?
Post by: Václav on December 18, 2010, 08:58:52 PM
If you need trams moving faster, you may download this tram way (http://www.simutrans-france.fr.nf/doku.php?id=en:trambygwalch) what allows trams to move by speed 90 km/h - but for ordinary city mass transit speed is not the most important because they (trams) hardly achieve their top speed.

So it is good to use them only to connect two close cities between each other - but only if you transport post. Else you need one extra-ordinary line for post-trucks.