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Development => Extension Requests => Topic started by: Fabio on August 05, 2011, 01:35:27 PM

Title: Remove way extension
Post by: Fabio on August 05, 2011, 01:35:27 PM
It would be useful if ctrl clicking on Remove way buttons wouuld open a window where you can check/uncheck:
- Remove way
- Remove catenary
- Remove signals

if the first one is checked, also the other two are, otherwise, you can use the tool to remove only the catenary or only the sign/signals or both without affecting the way itself.
Title: Re: Remove way extension
Post by: rsdworker on August 06, 2011, 09:50:42 PM
good idea - that's will help for example i remove power supply and don't damage the trackways
Title: Re: Remove way extension
Post by: Ters on August 06, 2011, 10:18:02 PM
Isn't there already a tool for removing catenary?
Title: Re: Remove way extension
Post by: rsdworker on August 06, 2011, 10:29:58 PM
Quote from: Ters on August 06, 2011, 10:18:02 PM
Isn't there already a tool for removing catenary?
yeah i think its in all paks but poster wanted a selectation - remove power and signals - for exxample i downgrade the old line - removing power lines and old signals
Title: Re: Remove way extension
Post by: Ters on August 06, 2011, 10:53:33 PM
Quote from: rsdworker on August 06, 2011, 10:29:58 PM
yeah i think its in all paks but poster wanted a selectation - remove power and signals - for exxample i downgrade the old line - removing power lines and old signals
I understood the possibilites of fabio's proposal, but it looked like you just sought a tool for safe removal of power only.
Title: Re: Remove way extension
Post by: Colin on August 07, 2011, 04:55:34 AM
Quote from: Ters on August 06, 2011, 10:18:02 PM
Isn't there already a tool for removing catenary?

I think in PAK128 it used to be in 'Special Tools' but I don't think it's there any more. I've looked for it when I've built a Power Grid but I have to remove each pylon one at a time, the same with Tram or Train overhead catenaries.
Title: Re: Remove way extension
Post by: Fabio on August 08, 2011, 07:41:53 AM
1) Removing catenaries: i didn't know the tool for removing powerlines can remove catenaries as well, in any case this is indeed counterintuitive. Moreover, pressing "e" just builds the last selected catenary of every kind, so building in cities where i use both trams and trolleybusses i end up sometimes building trolley catenaries and having to remove them (because I meant to lay tram catenaries).

2) Removing signals: This is very useful if I need to invert the direction of a track. Current workaround is: set signal spacing to 42, drag the signal tool, remove the starting signal too.
Title: Re: Remove way extension
Post by: Ters on August 08, 2011, 03:12:10 PM
The remove powerline tool does not remove catenarys in my simutrans, nor do the remove catenary tool remove powerlines. So if these two tools can be combined, it's the pak that does it, but I suspect some confusion between catenary and powerline in this thread. Pak64 has both remove catenary tool and remove powerline tool, so any pak that wants to can have them.

Remove signals is missing, though.
Title: Re: Remove way extension
Post by: Fabio on August 08, 2011, 03:56:23 PM
So, in order to have a remove catenary tool in pak128 it's enough to remap the menu. This is good to know.
still the extension as posted could still be useful (and replace the existing function), provided that it's easy enough to implement.
Title: Re: Remove way extension
Post by: skreyola on August 08, 2011, 04:13:37 PM
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It would be great if the wayobjects could be selected from the remove way tool, and as mentioned, there's currently no remove signal tool.
I would love to have a ctrl-selected dialog that lets me choose what I want to remove using the remove way tool.
Title: Re: Remove way extension
Post by: Colin on August 09, 2011, 05:19:45 PM
Quote from: Ters on August 08, 2011, 03:12:10 PM
The remove powerline tool does not remove catenarys in my simutrans, nor do the remove catenary tool remove powerlines. So if these two tools can be combined, it's the pak that does it, but I suspect some confusion between catenary and powerline in this thread. Pak64 has both remove catenary tool and remove powerline tool, so any pak that wants to can have them.

Remove signals is missing, though.

@ Ters & Fabio. Sorry if I misled you but my reference to overhead catenaries was only in respect that there was no tool to remove them. It was not meant in the same context as my remarks on the Power Line Removal Tool.