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Title: Changes in the latest PAK128 download.
Post by: Colin on February 13, 2012, 03:27:21 AM
Several things happening that are confusing me.
The use of / as a shortcut to Curiosity Builder is now Toggle Vehicle Tooltips.
The newer churches etc have suddenly disappeared from the Curiosity Builder, and from my map.
Whats with all the Dummy Factories?
Also when I loaded my sve this morning I seem to have multiple High Schools in almost all my city's.
The Hospital seems to be missing from the Curiosity Builder and has disappeared off my map.
I've given up looking for anymore.
PAK128 111.1 r5245
Have just discovered the reason for multiple High Schools. The Sushi Hospital graphic has been replaced by the High School graphic
Title: Re: Changes in the latest PAK128 download.
Post by: sdog on February 13, 2012, 04:37:20 AM
the release notes here might probably shed light on this, in case you used version 1.4.6 or earlier to build your savegame.
http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=8423.0
Title: Re: Changes in the latest PAK128 download.
Post by: Colin on February 13, 2012, 06:37:41 AM
Sorry, no answers whatsoever in the link you provided. No mention that I could see of any of the problems I have mentioned. Don't think I ever downloaded 1.4.6. This has occurred since the  update that I did, yesterday. PAK 128 111.1 and nightly revision r5245.
Title: Re: Changes in the latest PAK128 download.
Post by: sdog on February 13, 2012, 08:21:07 AM
What was the version number of your previous pak128? Was it a nightly too, if you don't know the number anymore, when did you download it?

I should like to ask again if you're certain it was a 2.x version pak you used before. The SUSHI_HOPITAL is listed in compat.tab (https://github.com/pak128svn/simutrans-pak128/blob/master/pak128.prototype/compat.tab) as are churches 00 and 01.
From the release notes linked above: "Removed countless objects for which license agreement was not obtained - mostly vehicles" Since those special buildings are listed in the corresponding category in compat.tab this item might indeed apply here.

Furthermore is the SUSHI_HOTEL neither in the special buildings directory nor has it been removed from there since opening the source. You can check this here: https://github.com/pak128svn/simutrans-pak128/commits/master/special_buildings
(or the svn on sourceforge: http://simutrans.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/simutrans/pak128/)

There shouldn't be any shortcut-keys for public player actions, as this is abused in multiplayer games.
the line in menuconf.tab is:
simple_tool[20]=,/
It has not changed either since opening the sources in november.
Title: Re: Changes in the latest PAK128 download.
Post by: Zeno on February 13, 2012, 09:29:00 AM
Colin, that hospital hasn't been in pak128 for ages, so I guess you're talking about the pak128 1.4.6 or earlier. Those versions haven't been changed since the open-source process, as long as the project maintenance has been working with the open-source version only. What about switching the nightly executable to your previous version? Does it solve the problem? Maybe getting a newer nightly?
Title: Re: Changes in the latest PAK128 download.
Post by: Colin on February 14, 2012, 12:14:39 AM
@sdog. The version I'm using was downloaded from the forum and was the latest version that Prissi added. I've tried different nightly's but they don't affect any changes.

@zeno. You may have cracked it. I lost an sve in November and haven't played the game since then until Thursday last week when I used an sve from October. This could have been whatever version was current at that time. I installed the latest version on Sunday and just copied the PAK files over the existing ones. but didn't play it until yesterday. I may have been using the PAK files from the nightly's download web site. prior to that. Bugger!! I liked the Sushi Hospital. But I noticed on Thursday before I installed the new PAK files that there some new buildings. I noticed mainly, a couple of new church/chapel types that occupied two or more tiles. They have gone too.
Looks like I'll have to start a new game from scratch.
Thank's for your help guy's. My bad for not keeping up with events/news.

PS:@sdog again.  The Factory Builder shortcut is still there. I don't see what difference it makes removing the Curiosity Builder shortcut it's still avaiable under Special Tools. It was just easier to hit the / key. Are you suggesting that multigame players cheat. Shock, Horror!!!!!!
Title: Re: Changes in the latest PAK128 download.
Post by: sdog on February 14, 2012, 04:28:03 AM
QuoteBugger!! I liked the Sushi Hospital.
many did, but VladimĂ­r didn't get in touch with the author of it, to get permission to put it under an open license.


You can still use it as an addon though. I'm sure someone can point you to the addon compilation containing the non-free objects.
Title: Re: Changes in the latest PAK128 download.
Post by: greenling on February 14, 2012, 12:18:22 PM
colin
you miss the sushi hospital?
i will look how it lay in my database.
Title: Re: Changes in the latest PAK128 download.
Post by: Colin on February 15, 2012, 12:40:58 AM
Thanks a lot greenling, If it's a major problem don't worry too much, Hey, I lived without it before so I'll live without it again. My simupeople might get sick though and have nowhere to go. ;D
Title: Re: Changes in the latest PAK128 download.
Post by: greenling on February 15, 2012, 04:54:32 PM
Colin
I Have fond the Sushi Hospital it now in a own Addonfolder here can you got the hospital.
http://128.simutrans.com/download/pak128-compatibility-2.0.0.zip (http://128.simutrans.com/download/pak128-compatibility-2.0.0.zip)
Thank you.That you have be said the lossness from a Pakfiles.
Sushi Hospital it a not open scoure pakfile it fly by the beginnig of the openscoure time out the pakset.
Title: Re: Changes in the latest PAK128 download.
Post by: Colin on February 15, 2012, 08:57:35 PM
Thank you greenling, Have downloaded it now. There is a large queue waiting for medical attention. ;D
Title: Re: Changes in the latest PAK128 download.
Post by: greenling on February 15, 2012, 10:12:46 PM
Colin
Like you Addons?

Title: Re: Changes in the latest PAK128 download.
Post by: Colin on February 16, 2012, 08:26:00 AM
Heh!!!