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Development => Extension Requests => Topic started by: Yona-TYT on March 28, 2014, 09:54:08 PM

Title: No route! (where is the problem?)
Post by: Yona-TYT on March 28, 2014, 09:54:08 PM


Have you ever happened  that a player delete a stretch of via, obstruct the passage to ships or in my case  download a game that has  vehicles without any route ... whatever the case, can lead long to find the blockage.

It would be nice to have a tool to send us to the exact position of the problem
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Title: Re: No route! (where is the problem?)
Post by: Ters on March 28, 2014, 10:32:57 PM
Quote from: Yona-TYT on March 28, 2014, 09:54:08 PM
It would be nice to have a tool to send us to the exact position of the problem[/size] :thumbsup:

It would be nice if someone can tell us how to tell the program how to find out the exact position of the problem.
Title: Re: No route! (where is the problem?)
Post by: Yona-TYT on March 28, 2014, 11:08:10 PM
Quote from: Ters on March 28, 2014, 10:32:57 PM
It would be nice if someone can tell us how to tell the program how to find out the exact position of the problem.
I guess it's impossible right?  ???
Title: Re: No route! (where is the problem?)
Post by: Ters on March 29, 2014, 08:20:51 AM
A 100 % accurate pinpointing of the break would require mind reading. A less accurate guess at where the problem seems to just require lots of processing power.
Title: Re: No route! (where is the problem?)
Post by: ӔO on March 29, 2014, 11:15:34 AM
Like I said in another thread pertaining to this, a visual toggle that highlights all dead ends and changes signals to arrows could allow the player to find the problem along their intended route.
Title: Re: No route! (where is the problem?)
Post by: Ters on March 29, 2014, 11:26:00 AM
Quote from: ӔO on March 29, 2014, 11:15:34 AM
Like I said in another thread pertaining to this, a visual toggle that highlights all dead ends and changes signals to arrows could allow the player to find the problem along their intended route.

Marking signals with an arrow requires that all pak sets supply such an arrow, but hightlightling all dead ends would help in most cases I've had with routing failures.

Lack of electrification, speed limits and weight limits aren't covered by your suggestion. Missing electrification in tunnels probably makes up the rest of my routing troubles. Could highlighting electrification on ground level work? The double-height slopes facing away from the screen is pretty much invisible, at least in pak64. Weight limits can easily be highlighted, but speed limits can only be highlighted at the sign itself, making them easier to miss.
Title: Re: No route! (where is the problem?)
Post by: ӔO on March 29, 2014, 01:06:09 PM
electrification can be seen on the minimap by showing tracks.
unelectrified tracks are white, while electrified are red.
Title: Re: No route! (where is the problem?)
Post by: Ters on March 29, 2014, 06:57:49 PM
Quote from: ӔO on March 29, 2014, 01:06:09 PM
electrification can be seen on the minimap by showing tracks.
unelectrified tracks are white, while electrified are red.

It would be nice to see everything together when looking for why a route can't be found, though. Signals and signs become very small in the minimap. If given big symbols, they can easily overlap and create a mess.
Title: Re: No route! (where is the problem?)
Post by: ӔO on March 29, 2014, 09:44:31 PM
If it's on the main display, I think it can be all inclusive without conflicting with each other.
1. highlight dead ends (bright blue?)
2. high visibility arrow signals (black/white)
3. highlight electrification/non-electrification of tracks (red/white?)