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Title: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on August 20, 2008, 09:04:22 PM
I've done this minibus: Mercedes 881D. It's quite balanced and its capacity is 56 passengers. I'll do some more, so you have to wait for a few days.. :P
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/XdXavier/SKyFjLdYWpI/AAAAAAAAAQo/wNEJdijd9MA/s144/mini_bus_pre.png)

Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: PatrickN on August 21, 2008, 03:57:39 AM
That looks pretty nice.
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: Alex. Brose on August 21, 2008, 05:34:52 AM
Nice minibus. And nice colors though.  ;D
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on August 21, 2008, 06:59:29 AM
Thanks... I applied SSS (SubSurface Scattering) to improve the image quality, but I'm afraid it's difficult to realize about it at 64pak scale.
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: Alex. Brose on August 21, 2008, 07:10:25 AM
Of course it's difficult. After rescaling it will be hard to make out the differences between Mercedes and something like Iveco Daily or Ford Transit.
But i'm sure you will accomplish your work magnificent.  8)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: sojo on August 21, 2008, 07:11:55 AM
Quote from: vilvoh on August 21, 2008, 06:59:29 AM
but I'm afraid it's difficult to notice it at 64pak scale.
Then try it out 96px. ;-)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on August 21, 2008, 07:24:11 AM
Well, I haven't rescale it... ::).... I rendered it direct to 64pak scale. On the other hand, I must say that the color scheme would be perfect for 96pak, but I would have to render it with a toon style. I might try it...
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: Alex. Brose on August 21, 2008, 09:45:38 AM
Quote from: vilvoh on August 21, 2008, 07:24:11 AM
Well, I haven't rescale it... ::)....
Actually i mean the same. Rescaling the scale. Wrong wording, sorry.  ;D
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on August 21, 2008, 09:00:36 PM
Another one, MCW MetroRider MF150. It has less capacity than the Mercedes Benz (50 pass)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/XdXavier/SK3WhYhJ75I/AAAAAAAAASE/Sv7Fm3YF5zU/s144/MetroRider_prev.png)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: Trasportator on August 21, 2008, 09:21:13 PM
Really nice minibusses!!
Well done!! :)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on August 31, 2008, 07:19:31 PM
Another one. Nissan Coaster C9 (32 pass. -- 55 km/h) with Macao color scheme.
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/XdXavier/SLrtzyYHg2I/AAAAAAAAAWs/AzdqsVP6RtQ/s144/Coaster_c9.png)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 01, 2008, 11:57:32 PM
Steyr CityBus S. It's supposed to be electric (engine_type=battery). 28 passengers.
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/XdXavier/SLyAjIEUwkI/AAAAAAAAAYk/ZbEWjXfRIXg/s144/steyr_pre.png)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: jbode on September 02, 2008, 06:58:05 AM
Great busses! But I think for more than 20 passengers we need a loaded bus picture with people cluttered on the roof and on the sides of the vehicle. But again they are very fine and your decision between realism and playability!

;)

Jörg
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 02, 2008, 07:05:40 AM
It's a great idea, but I hope you don't want something like this (http://wopico.blogspot.com/2008/08/fully-loaded-bus.html) in Simutrans... ::)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: jbode on September 02, 2008, 09:07:33 AM
Nay, this would not be visible anyway ... Only funny for "us", the overfed and overprotected developed countries, not really funny for people in countries where there is a need to squeeze into the public transport to get somewhere ...

Jörg
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 02, 2008, 09:22:58 AM
It also happens in subway trains (Tokio (http://inventorspot.com/files/images/T028954A.img_assist_custom.jpg), Madrid (http://amysrobot.com/files/subway_crowded.JPG), NY (http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/intel/07/09/28_packedtrain_lg.jpg) and many other cities around the world)...anyway, I'll try out something, just for curiosity.

Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: VS on September 02, 2008, 09:26:03 AM
That photo looks suspiciously familiar. I know some lines here that go in 3 minute interval and look like this in rush hour.

Sometimes it's not even a question of having more vehicles, but building other modes of transport when there is not way to do that. Streets here are quite narrow, compared to Vienna or Berlin or... well you get the idea, in centre they often don't have more than 10m across, which is bad when you have to squeeze in all the cars, two sidewalks, two tram lanes, and whatever else. And bulldozing some of city houses isn't an option :)

Back to topic... any idea how they look in final size?
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 02, 2008, 09:21:57 PM
Next one will be Ikarus EAG E91. I'm still gathering the technical info.
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/XdXavier/SL2s1po2BMI/AAAAAAAAAaU/xkfc1eUSOXw/s144/ikarus_e91_prev.png)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 03, 2008, 09:32:55 PM
I've finished the Ikarus. I've chosen the electric version. In addition, here you have the Mercedes Benz o814.They're very small about 33-37 passengers, but I think the Ikarus is my best work until now (I'm talking about this pak, of course.. :P)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/XdXavier/SL8AxzYGm5I/AAAAAAAAAbQ/mKbesRc19sA/s144/mercedes_benz_o814_pre.png)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 05, 2008, 05:46:06 PM
Next one will be this Nissan Civillian WBX. Only two more to finish...
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/XdXavier/SMFvZdpRT5I/AAAAAAAAAdo/VFb9xb_AOC4/s144/Nissan_Civillian_WBX_pre.png)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 06, 2008, 06:29:20 PM
Nissan finished.. ;D...I've also finished this Mitsubishi R220. Only left another Mercedes and a Setra.
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/XdXavier/SMLLAI1LClI/AAAAAAAAAeY/-nya9JWJcLk/s144/Mitsubishi_R220_pre.png)

Quote from: VS on September 02, 2008, 09:26:03 AM
Back to topic... any idea how they look in final size?

Some of them fit in the scale, others are bigger than I would like to.... :-\
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 07, 2008, 07:02:14 PM
Setra s208 HMU....
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/XdXavier/SMQkXvnQNwI/AAAAAAAAAfc/yAPXZiq-xkY/s144/setra_s220.png)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 09, 2008, 11:38:28 AM
Instead of the Mercedes Benz o304, I'm going to create this Mitsubishi Fuso RS, and probably 4 or 5 versions of Hino Poncho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hino_Poncho).
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/XdXavier/SMZfL827XYI/AAAAAAAAAio/TIDBPQVrEEU/s144/Mitsubshi_Fuso_Aero.png)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 09, 2008, 06:31:05 PM
A preview of the Hino Poncho Long series...
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/XdXavier/SMbABGSsGhI/AAAAAAAAAjI/MZ_UiayMeDA/s400/hino_poncho_short_serie_pre.png)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: Simppe on September 09, 2008, 06:33:01 PM
 :o keep up the good work vilvoh
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 09, 2008, 06:36:51 PM
Thanks.. ;D....I think they'll be finished in a few days..keep up waiting
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 10, 2008, 08:33:57 PM
Last preview before the last release... ;D....Hino Poncho Short series (128pak scale)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/XdXavier/SMguBcGE_OI/AAAAAAAAAkA/BChfIM7QkfQ/s144/hino_poncho_short_series.png)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 12, 2008, 05:17:45 PM
Mitsubishi Fuso RS -- 31 passengers -- 55 kw -- 82 km/h -- 5 tn
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 14, 2008, 06:33:05 PM
This is the last one...Hino Poncho series. I'll do some more but by now I would like to start other projects (freight planes, road trains, etc...)

Just two things. I'll try to create a tutorial about how to make buses with Blender. I've realized that it's really easy to make them. It usually takes me an hour and a half o two to design, model, texturize, render and fix the images. And I think you don't need any special skills or experience with Blender. So I think that a tutorial about this would be a good way to encourage people to create objects for Simutrans with Blender. I'll publish the tutorial in the blog (Escala Real (http://simutrans-escala-real.blogspot.com/)) but I do not discard to create some kind of guide (with Ormac help... ::))

The last thing. If someone wants to port them to 128pak, I've the Blender files and the textures (they're small, about 200-300KB including the texture) So send me a PM and I will send you the graphic sources.
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: Alex. Brose on September 14, 2008, 06:38:38 PM
I am wondering if you could put those tenderly buses in a zip-file?
I'll post them on my website.
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 14, 2008, 06:50:04 PM
You mean an all-in-one zip file? yes, of course
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: Alex. Brose on September 14, 2008, 06:52:40 PM
Thank you.
Sorry for my unclear words.
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 14, 2008, 10:23:24 PM
It doesn't matter....(http://www.greensmilies.com/smile/smiley_emoticons_joint.gif)....A preview of what we have until now.
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/XdXavier/SM2Iu-662hI/AAAAAAAAAkw/RAVKvv-Hekk/s144/minibus_pak_preview.png) (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/B4MgsPBeKkAuql8lQJeGXw)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: VS on September 14, 2008, 10:29:36 PM
Bautiful buses! Only the one with blue windows is a bit unnatural.
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 14, 2008, 10:41:17 PM
(That's the Mercedes Benz o814) What do you exactly mean with unnatural? out of scale?
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: VS on September 14, 2008, 10:42:48 PM
No, the blue window colour. But you can always pretend it is an ad over the whole vehicle - the kind with small holes through which you can see out but not in :)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on September 14, 2008, 10:47:07 PM
Oh, that....well, I couldn't use dark windows because the result was too dark. I've a general rule for this kind of situations that says dark object --> light windows and viceversa. It usually works for me... :)
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: kylearalar on December 13, 2009, 09:43:27 AM
you can also make  Toyota Coaster and a Mitsubishi Fuso Rosa
Title: Re: minibuses
Post by: vilvoh on December 13, 2009, 11:57:35 AM
You owned me!  ;D In fact, the Nissan coaster should appear as Toyota Coaster and the Mitsubishi Fuso Rosa was renamed as Mitsubishi Fuso Rs (Rosa) I gathered a lot of images, so I guess I mixed the names of the vehicles.