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Title: Hungarian Trains for Standard *and* Experimental
Post by: Carl on July 30, 2011, 03:40:04 PM
Here are two Hungarian diesel units for pak64. These are the first vehicles I've made for Simutrans, so be gentle :)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61716/hungariantrains.jpg)

Feedback and suggestions for improvement very welcome!

These trains make use of some of Simutrans-Experimental's new features, including overcrowded capacity, comfort rating and bi-directional working.

Based on these vehicles:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Bzmot-268_sp.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/Bzmot_410.jpg/800px-Bzmot_410.jpg)

These trains work in the latest version of Simutrans-Experimental. They don't work on my copy of Simutrans-Standard. Does anybody know what I'd need to do to make a version which does work on Standard?
Title: Re: Hungarian Trains for Simutrans-Experimental
Post by: prissi on July 30, 2011, 04:12:01 PM
Use the makeobj of standard ...
Title: Re: Hungarian Trains for Simutrans-Experimental
Post by: Carl on July 30, 2011, 04:13:09 PM
I tried that once. I guess I'll give it another go. Thanks!
Title: Re: Hungarian Trains for Standard *and* Experimental
Post by: Carl on July 31, 2011, 10:26:55 AM
Here are versions of the above trains which you can use with Simutrans Standard.

Title: Re: Hungarian Trains for Standard *and* Experimental
Post by: Emil Sawicki on July 31, 2011, 07:58:14 PM
I think your bzmot is too fast.

"A gyári motorral felszerelt motorkocsi végsebessége 70 km/h volt." - translation: "Equipped with factory engine [it] can reach top speed 70 km/h." (Wikipedia)

This engine is Rába-MAN D2156 HM 6U, same as in bus Jelcz M11 (http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=6208.msg59792#msg59792), so it's power equals 142 kW.
Title: Re: Hungarian Trains for Standard *and* Experimental
Post by: Carl on July 31, 2011, 08:04:52 PM
Thanks for that useful information, Emil! I only looked at the sidebar of the wiki article, so didn't spot the section on speed. I notice that the article also states that later versions could reach 80kph and had 162kW power.

Judging from this article (http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterPici), the red and white version appears to be refurbished for a branded service. Do you know whether these vehicles are capable of greater speeds/power?

Edit: I notice that this similar vehicle (http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%81V_6312_sorozat) can achieve 90kph at power of 245kW. I should draw this version, too -- perhaps even instead of the Bztx.
Title: Re: Hungarian Trains for Standard *and* Experimental
Post by: Xelofino on July 31, 2011, 08:24:38 PM
Hungarian Trains :D. I used them many times already (the ones that you drew) and they are terrible ;). But actually they fit somehow to Hungary, don't they? A question, are you hungarian?

Xelofino

Edit: i just saw that you live in Leeds so another Question: How did you get through to this trains? How do you knew them?
Title: Re: Hungarian Trains for Standard *and* Experimental
Post by: Carl on July 31, 2011, 08:28:11 PM
I'm not Hungarian, but I have spent a few months in and around Budapest over the years! I think Hungary's trains have a lot of charm!  ;)

I'm currently working on a south-east Europe map and I wanted some "authentic" vehicles to use, which is what inspired me to draw these trains.
Title: Re: Hungarian Trains for Standard *and* Experimental
Post by: Emil Sawicki on July 31, 2011, 08:31:05 PM
Carl Baker: if you want faster bzmot, draw this: http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bzmot_601 There are two versions of this vehicle: two-segment and three-segment.

Ülőhelyek száma:   kétrészes: 86; háromrészes: 120 (seats: two-segment car: 86; three-segment car: 120).

Top speed: 100 km/h, power: 250 kW (both versions).

EDIT:

I'm currently working on a south-east Europe map and I wanted some "authentic" vehicles to use, which is what inspired me to draw these trains.

I created diesel loco M62 for MÁV: http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=6208.msg67995#msg67995
Title: Re: Hungarian Trains for Standard *and* Experimental
Post by: Carl on July 31, 2011, 08:46:59 PM

I created diesel loco M62 for MÁV: http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=6208.msg67995#msg67995

I have that -- and I'm putting it to good use! :)