Problems Regarding Early Tube Stock and Tunnels

[dave62]

In my current pak Britain Standard game I have run into a couple of problems concerning the early tunnel way type and underground trains.

In January 1890, the new tube tunnel is available – message states "LT_Tunnel_Track is now available", but cannot be found on the rail tools tab.  I have checked in both underground and normal modes.  Having run a test game I have discovered that Tube Tunnel way type – which I assume is the same thing – is not available until 1900.

At the same time the CSLR 1890 Tube Locomotive and CSLR 1890 'Padded Cell' Tube Stock are also available but cannot be bought from a rail depot as they are electrics and there are no electric overheads or 3rd/4th rails available until January 1907, when 3rd and 4th rail electrification is available to coincide with the arrival of the Metropolitan 1907 Motorised Tube Stock.

Using Simutrans Standard v111.3 with pak128.Britain 1.11.

Best wishes

David

[jamespetts]

I believe that the first problem should be fixed by replacing tube-tunnel.dat with the following:

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Obj=tunnel
Name=LT_Tunnel
copyright=James
waytype=track
way=LT_Tunnel_Track
cost=775000
maintenance=2750
topspeed=80
max_weight=100
intro_year = 1890
intro_month = 11
# No retirement yet - no modern type tunnels to replace it.
way_constraint_prohibitive[1]=1
# Normal images
BackImage[W][0]=tube-tunnel-brick.1.0
FrontImage[W][0]=tube-tunnel-brick.0.0
BackImage[N][0]=tube-tunnel-brick.1.1
FrontImage[N][0]=tube-tunnel-brick.0.1
FrontImage[E][0]=tube-tunnel-brick.0.2
FrontImage[S][0]=tube-tunnel-brick.0.3
BackImage[W][1]=tube-tunnel-brick-snow.1.0
FrontImage[W][1]=tube-tunnel-brick-snow.0.0
BackImage[N][1]=tube-tunnel-brick-snow.1.1
FrontImage[N][1]=tube-tunnel-brick-snow.0.1
FrontImage[E][1]=tube-tunnel-brick-snow.0.2
FrontImage[S][1]=tube-tunnel-brick-snow.0.3
icon=> tube-tunnel-brick.1.3
cursor=tube-tunnel-brick.1.2
-------------------------------
Obj=way
Name=LT_Tunnel_Track
copyright=TimothyBaldock&KieronGreen&James
cost=728000
maintenance=2600
topspeed=80
intro_year = 1890
intro_month = 11
waytype=track
way_constraint_prohibitive[1]=1
system_type=64
icon=> ./images/tube-tunnel-track.3.4
cursor=./images/tube-tunnel-track.3.5
Image[-][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.1.2
Image[N][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.1.5
Image[S][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.2.1
Image[E][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.2.2
Image[W][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.2.0
Image[NS][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.1.0
Image[EW][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.1.1
Image[NSE][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.0.2
Image[NSW][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.0.4
Image[NEW][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.0.1
Image[SEW][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.0.3
Image[NSEW][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.1.2
Image[NE][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.3.0
Image[SE][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.2.3
Image[NW][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.2.4
Image[SW][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.2.5
ImageUp[3][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.1.3
ImageUp[6][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.1.4
ImageUp[9][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.0.0
ImageUp[12][0]=./images/tube-tunnel-track.0.5


The issue is that LT_Tunnel_Track had its introduction date set as 1900 instead of 1890. Likewise, the fourth rail waytype should have its introduction date set as November 1890. These issues have now been fixed in Experimental (the fourth rail issue had already been fixed).

[dave62]

Thanks for the reply James.

Just out of interest, are the CSLR 1890 Tube stock trains to have their introduction dates changed to November 1890, to match fourth rail waytype as they currently begin to appear in January 1890?

Also I assume the underground stations will have to have their introduction dates changed also.  Sorry I've not checked what date they currently start.

[jamespetts]

They are already November 1890 in Experimental - I suggest that these be changed in Standard, too.

[dave62]

Thanks again James.

All is clear now.

[The Hood]

Thanks - I found this last week myself. It's already fixed on my local copy but I've not done an update to SVN for a while.

[dave62]

You're welcome, Hood.

I should say you have done a great job on the underground lines and trains.  Trains moving around the tube tunnels in underground mode look very impressive in game.

[benjad]

Bringing this one back from the dead... issue still exists in 112, downloaded with the last release. 

[The Hood]

I fixed it in SVN last week - if you use the latest nightly it should be fixed but I've not done a major release since then.

[greenling]

benjad
you must wait until the Thursday morning than can you test the Pak128.britain again.