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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #210 on: February 21, 2012, 09:03:47 AM »
+1 @ sdog...

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #211 on: February 21, 2012, 09:33:46 AM »
The model is bowstring/tied arch bridge. They are usually made of concrete or latticework. 200 km/h will be in concrete, 240 km/h will likely be in latticework.
Maybe the concrete one could be 4-6 px wide and as thick.

This is the model I use for the above bridge:



EDIT: Uploaded image with Tinypic, as the link provided didn't work
« Last Edit: February 21, 2012, 01:13:47 PM by fabio »

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #212 on: February 21, 2012, 12:37:44 PM »
I'm late I'm afraid... But come back after few days of holidays...

About 320 & 400 km/h elevated...
Just a little suggestion : drawing additionnal shadow of wall like this :


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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #213 on: February 22, 2012, 04:07:46 PM »
New screenshot for 200 km/h bridge (revised):


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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #214 on: February 22, 2012, 04:28:21 PM »
Cool Fabio great work.

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #215 on: February 22, 2012, 05:04:02 PM »
the 200km/h bridge looks much better now.

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #216 on: February 22, 2012, 05:41:52 PM »
looks very good now fabio, and thanks for the references.

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #217 on: March 02, 2012, 06:28:11 PM »
I didn't update screenshots for more than a week!

Here's new 240 km/h bridge:


And here's an updated 200 km/h bridge:


Here, finally, the updated version of 400 km/h elevated:

It features two little pieces of magic:
- new front images for ways (I'll never thank Dwachs enough)
- the tile upslope is actually 144 px tall ;) This allows space for the back fence. It's accomplished having 2 different offsets for back and front image and painting the front pillar in the front image.
You can also see mEGa's shade in vertical diagonals.

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #218 on: March 03, 2012, 05:03:01 PM »
Hi,

Always so successful !

I notice one thing about shades (once again ;-) ). I mean you notice too and will correct this.
See the joined sight.

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #219 on: March 06, 2012, 06:39:51 PM »
Here's another preview: 100 km/h and 120 km/h truss bridges:


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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #220 on: March 07, 2012, 02:32:50 PM »
The bridge look extremely generic. More like 8 bit colors, and way too plain.

And the track on the grass has way too little contrast, I see no sleepers at all. Maybe this is an unlucky combination, but it gives a strong toy look to me.

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #221 on: March 11, 2012, 03:23:12 PM »
some of those types of steel truss bridges don't use sleepers or a walkable deck at all. Instead the rails are fastened to a longitudinal beam. This solves a problem with keeping ballast on the deck and it cuts down on amount of materials required.
example: http://youtu.be/EehbbXZj6D4?t=2m8s

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #222 on: March 14, 2012, 05:09:59 PM »
Truss completely reworked, I hope with better results.

This is a preview, some errors (e.g. missing pillars) are known.

Thanks for your feedback!



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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #223 on: March 14, 2012, 05:18:34 PM »
I didn't update screenshots for more than a week!

Here's new 240 km/h bridge:


And here's an updated 200 km/h bridge:


Here, finally, the updated version of 400 km/h elevated:

It features two little pieces of magic:
- new front images for ways (I'll never thank Dwachs enough)
- the tile upslope is actually 144 px tall ;) This allows space for the back fence. It's accomplished having 2 different offsets for back and front image and painting the front pillar in the front image.
You can also see mEGa's shade in vertical diagonals.


very very beautiful   :o      i like that

great work

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #224 on: March 14, 2012, 07:12:39 PM »
I think all 4 of those truss bridges are good. I think the first version could be used as well, as long as the deck from the second version is used.

I also think the second version could be one tone darker.

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #225 on: March 24, 2012, 12:01:20 AM »
I'm still working on bridges, now on the oldest / lowest speed. Screenshots will follow.



Here's a very interesting reading about bridge types. I wanted to share it, although many of these types are not possible / not nice with the current bridges code.

http://pghbridges.com/basics.htm

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #226 on: March 24, 2012, 04:49:45 PM »
Very very interesting. Thanks to have shared this resource.

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #227 on: March 24, 2012, 05:50:02 PM »
It is very interesting, I agree with mEGa - but here is also one minor problem - some ones cannot be done - or only with big problems - due to slope bridge entrances - and some only for very short bridges (with total limit of 3 tiles - it means two entrances and one middle part).

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #228 on: April 16, 2012, 04:41:15 PM »

Just to bump this thread...

The work is proceding, slowly but steady enough.

Estimated work statistics:
TRACK
BRIDGE
ELEVATED
TUNNEL
TOTAL
60
90%
80%
85%
80
90%
80%
90%
87%
80
90%
80%
90%
87%
100
90%
80%
90%
87%
120
90%
80%
90%
87%
140
90%
60%
60%
90%
75%
160
90%
60%
60%
90%
75%
180
90%
60%
60%
90%
75%
200
90%
90%
5%
90%
69%
240
90%
80%
5%
90%
66%
280
90%
5%
5%
5%
26%
320
90%
90%
90%
5%
69%
400
90%
90%
90%
5%
69%
TOTAL
90%
72%
47%
69%
73%

All in black is ready for test release. it misses snow version, which will be added later (= between test release and final release).

Red: This part is missing or must be redone from the scratch, I'll work on it soon.

Orange: These bridges were ready, but now I want to try to make them larger (= 1 full tile) for better look with stations. These tracks (140, 160 and 180 km/h) are intended to be the general purpose tracks, and those used in urban sections, so they need to look good with a station. Widening them shouldn't take long.

Dark red: Mostly done, they possibly need some improvement of their ramps.

I know this set is long overdue, I hope I can deliver it soon enough for testing.

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #229 on: April 26, 2012, 09:22:16 AM »
1) Thanks for all the new tracks. simutrans really needs a complete track set and the current lack of fast bridges really hurts it.
2) I'd like to see earlier elevated railways. AFAIR the 5.5. km elevated London and Greenwich Railway opened in 1838.

http://www.engrailhistory.info/imfile/r03812.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/London-Greenwich_viaduct.jpg

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #230 on: May 04, 2012, 01:01:05 PM »
Ok, 140, 160 and 180 km/h repainted (just a couple of details needed), now they are a full tile wide:








1) Thanks for all the new tracks. simutrans really needs a complete track set and the current lack of fast bridges really hurts it.
2) I'd like to see earlier elevated railways. AFAIR the 5.5. km elevated London and Greenwich Railway opened in 1838.

Thanks for the feedback. I'll see to plan better the early age, maybe adding a new 120 km railtrack including elevated as well.

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #231 on: May 04, 2012, 03:16:44 PM »
Great !
As you answered me, I can help you creating tracks tube under tunnel.


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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #232 on: May 04, 2012, 04:56:48 PM »
Fabio
Nice Photo what you bemake have!

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Pack 128: High Speed Tunnels
« Reply #233 on: August 02, 2012, 08:19:49 PM »
Hello!
I need tunnels for High speed trains ...more than 280 km/h >>> 420km/h like Bridges seems a good speed...
I'm a beginner and don't know how to create that!
Does it exist?
Where is it possible to Load them?

Thanks for your help!
And have fun!

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Re: Pack 128: High Speed Tunnels
« Reply #234 on: August 02, 2012, 10:35:56 PM »
They are planned.
Actually, they are the last objects completely missing from my replacement set...

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Re: Pack 128: High Speed Tunnels
« Reply #235 on: August 09, 2012, 01:23:08 PM »
Thanks Fabio for your Help
and please, let me know when they are ready

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #236 on: August 12, 2012, 12:16:46 PM »
How about putting the best parts of this into the main pak?
The current main pak really has some shortcomings, in particular the lack of fast bridges. So how about just getting the fast bridges into main? In case the track replacement project gets completed some time, the other items can always be put into the main pack then.

Philipp

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #237 on: August 13, 2012, 08:02:06 AM »
Hello!
I need tunnels for High speed trains ...more than 280 km/h >>> 420km/h like Bridges seems a good speed...
I'm a beginner and don't know how to create that!
Does it exist?
Where is it possible to Load them?

Before planned replacement tunnels, you can use japanese addons may be :
http://japanese.simutrans.com/index.php?Addon128%2FRailTools%202#m0655a6e
But max speed is only 360 km/h

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #238 on: August 13, 2012, 04:16:45 PM »
This addon are Cool.

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #239 on: September 01, 2012, 04:04:39 PM »
yeah man, the bridges look fantastic....when will you release it? I can´t w8  8)

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #240 on: September 01, 2012, 06:46:39 PM »
Ghost-cz
Fabio work slowly but very good.
Then you try to make steam that Fabio faster work it Posible that he go in Strike.

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #241 on: September 07, 2012, 10:50:31 AM »
just asking lol

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #242 on: September 11, 2012, 03:40:25 PM »
Ghost-cz
I Work self on a Pakset but the Ajust from prices and Power needs many time.

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Tracks replacement project for pak 128 - Test release - Part 1
« Reply #243 on: September 21, 2012, 03:52:40 PM »
I must confess the works got slowed/delayed in the last few months.

So I decided to release a test pak including only 60 km/h to 180 km/h.

These are (should be) finalized in their summer version.
After I receive some feedback, I believe also the sources could be released and replace in the official pakset all tracks up to 160 km/h.

:down: test-railtracks-120921.zip (1.25 MB)

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Re: Tracks replacement project for pak 128
« Reply #244 on: September 21, 2012, 04:15:55 PM »
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Nice that you be relase a Testpakfile.