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It's hard to earn money for a circle line in 101

Started by mmlcs36, March 01, 2009, 02:05:10 PM

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mmlcs36

As payment is now only for the decrease in distance to the next transfer stop,
and passengers in the simutrans do only choose the route with shortest transfer,
it is very hard to operate a circle line since it usually take passengers to a stop which is away the next transfer point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yamanote.png
Take the map above as an example

If a passenger wants to go to Tokyo from Shin-okubo.
In reality, we will transfer to the orange line from the green line at shinjuku.
But in the simutrans world, passengers will only travel on the green line
and the operator needs to pay back the passenger half of their way.
It is making the operator much harder to earn money.


Welcome to discuss~

prissi


mmlcs36

Quote from: prissi on March 01, 2009, 07:18:09 PM
Use the nightly, there you can configure it.
Sorry, I don't quite get your point...

Combuijs

QuoteUse the nightly

See this website: http://simutrans-germany.com/~nightly/simutrans/index.php.
You will find the latest build of simutrans there. Use it at your own risk, though most of them are quite stable.

Quotethere you can configure it

See this topic http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=1518.0 which explains how to configure the paying model.

You can only do this in the nightly builds. It will be part of the next (102?) release.
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mmlcs36

I don't want to 'cheat' actually, but I think the mode of passenger choosing their way should be changed so that it can become more realistic

whoami

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Quote from: mmlcs36 on March 06, 2009, 12:41:01 PM
I don't want to 'cheat' actually
Cheating in ST is possible in so many ways... But this is about a recent change in the program which cancels out a certain way to cheat, thereby changing the long-established way of transport fee calculation.

Quotebut I think the mode of passenger choosing their way should be changed so that it can become more realistic
This is already configurable by you (the program knows three different modes of revenue calculation): just follow the second link from Combuijs (last post in that topic). Edit: please forget this part of my post, I misread you post. But there have been topics about changes to routing.

Sarrus

With new payment system making profitable city transportation (pak128) is a really nightmare.  For big city it's only possible by creating many lines to cover most city titles. 6 lines per city? Pretty annoying. Making this optional is very good idea to me.