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Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« on: March 28, 2009, 11:55:59 PM »
Following the suggestions from Lodovico's Niwi report about pak64 timeline, I've decided to make several old steam locomotives. This was Lodovic's recommendation:
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- a locomotive for a period 1850 - 1870. Desired power: 50 - 200 kW, desired cost 1.5 - 2.5 ยข/km.,

but I wan't make just one.These are the candidates for the set:


In addition, I'll make a passengers wagon for the period 1850-1870. It's called Kinkade coach. Any additional requests?

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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2009, 03:00:06 AM »
Good to hear.:) New loco & Passenger car!
Fact, gap between adler(1835-1857) and kkSTB110(1863-1926) is 28 years!

If I've given vote, I will go Iron Duke or Crampton
From the photos only, Iron Duke looks best.  Next will be Crampton.

There is also big gap between two passenger cars
PrPersonnenWagen 1855-1951 and Passagierwagen 1924-1998
a gap of 69(!!) years.
If permitted I will request a passenger wagon(and modified mail wagon) appearing
around 1880-1890.

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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2009, 07:55:09 AM »
for a list of german locos see here

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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2009, 11:13:27 AM »
Thanks for the link, Frank. Some of the steam locos shown from 1835-1875 are very similar to Crampton, so I think it will be a good candidate.

Btw, the set will consist of 5 or 6 locos..
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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2009, 08:40:25 PM »
A preview of the first three items of the set:



P.S: I've included Hackworth because it's very similar to RSC Locomotion No. 1.
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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2009, 04:58:44 AM »
They look very cute! Love them :)

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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2009, 06:24:59 PM »
The set is ready for downloading. They don't have a lot of power so they can't pull big amounts of goods (the limit would be about 25-40 tn)

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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2009, 04:13:54 PM »
Thanks a lot vilvoh!

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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2012, 09:08:28 PM »
I love these locos. Crampton is my favourite one.
Unfortunately they are not part of pak64 - they are available only as a addon - althow there is a big gap alter locomotive Adler.

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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2012, 04:26:23 PM »
jk271
the big problem it that the railwaycomany from 1835 until 1890 not be often speak over theirs Steam locomotive
and Paint a Steam locomotive was by Painter not be like.Photos from Steam locomotive was very rar out this time.

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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2012, 09:10:47 PM »
There is the raven set. But those engines were unfourtunately rendered and needs more retouches by hand.

There is a sceond page. Those engines are very nice, but just very rough ... anyone retouching them would be great.

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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2019, 11:54:23 PM »
Link's dead, does anyone still have this?

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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2019, 07:55:38 AM »
Yes, there was an experimental pak64 set, and it was in the sources. I still have it as well, but the PNG + DAT are too large to be attached.

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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2019, 11:44:53 PM »
Well, can you put an external link to it?

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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2019, 02:00:12 AM »
I have the images. I do not have a dat for Standard. I am not sure if the experimental source give good data for standard.

https://simutrans-germany.com/files/upload/19th-Century-experimental-src.7z

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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2019, 12:20:28 AM »
These aren't the same locomotives.

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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2019, 02:26:33 AM »
These are exactly the locos of vilvoh. There have never been something else. Raven set has rather newer engines, I check it.

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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2021, 12:37:35 AM »
These are exactly the locos of vilvoh. There have never been something else. Raven set has rather newer engines, I check it.
That is actually wrong, the Crampton from the pak64.german set is made by vilvoh, but is not in pak64 traditionally. This is something else, and you're sorely mistaken.

not edit: sorry it's been 2 years I just sort of fell out of the community for a while
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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2021, 12:31:46 AM »
Can you be a little more specific, why these are not the same engines? (Apart from the above links all dead.) They are not in pak64, because they had a lot or issue (like different width upwards and downwards etc) due to rendering.


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Re: Old steam locomotives (1830-1870)
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2021, 06:15:16 PM »
The pak64.german locomotive has completely different graphics to the pak64 version, with credits being given to vilvoh, the creator of this set, rather than to raven as in the pak64 version.