Started by jonbridg, July 13, 2020, 07:28:13 PM
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Quote from: jonbridg on September 30, 2020, 08:39:44 AMGreat, thanks you both. I have now pushed the new Class 195 and 196/196, which completes the current Civity family in the UK.These are 160km/h DMUs: the 195 is presented as a budget version with more seats, while the 196/197 has higher comfort and options for first-class and trolley service. Both are available in formations of +2 cars.
Quote from: TheRoadmaster1996 on October 03, 2020, 02:49:46 AMYou know what I want to see: Northern Irish locomotives. Northern Ireland is part of Britain is it not? So it would be fine to have locomotives from Northern Ireland in a Britain pakset.
Quote from: Vladki on October 02, 2020, 09:59:03 PMcomposite-motor with 18 1st class seats has 0 running costs. It should have the same as other motorised parts.---Also the constraints are not consistent, e.g. MiddleTrailer has constraint[prev]=FrontMS, but FrontMS does not have constraint[next]=middleTrailer.
Quote from: Vladki on October 02, 2020, 09:59:03 PMAnd I still do not get the reason why there are three stnadard class motor cars: FrontMS, RearMS, and MiddlePower.---IMHO it would be sufficient to have only one MiddlePower (get rid of FrontMS and RearMS). And just forbid putting two unpowered trailers next to each other, or next to front/rear. If you agree, I can prepare a patch.
Quote from: jamespetts on October 03, 2020, 10:27:40 AMThe trouble with Irish railways (whether Northern Ireland or the Republic, the distinction between which did not exist until 1922) is that the railway gauge there is greater than it is in Great Britain, so the vehicles of the two systems are not compatible. Since it is impractical to have a large number of different gauges, rail vehicles in the pakset are restricted to those that ran on standard gauge or 2ft narrow gauge.
Quote from: jonbridg on October 03, 2020, 12:06:02 PMAha, thanks for pointing this out. 0 running costs is certainly wrong, as is the MiddleTrailer constraint[prev]=FrontMS. The third vehicle should always be a motor. If you'd be willing to patch them that'd be great, thanks.The system with three standard motor cars was created to limit the number of powered vehicles, similar to other EMUs such as the Pendolino, by prohibiting MiddlePower-MiddlePower constraints. Under the old system doing so would have broken the Trailer-Motor-Motor-Motor-Trailer configuration needed for 5-car trains, so I added an extra standard-class motor vehicle.The extra standard-motors also support livery differences along the length of the train: both VTEC and Hull Trains (and Avanti, according to concept art) make use of this. This is a symptom of UK railways' fondness for fixed-formation trains - since the number of cars very rarely changes, a train-length design can be applied. (I would post a screenshot but my Ubuntu partition which has Simutrans fails to start after a recent update, so I can't access it yet)
Quote from: Vladki on October 15, 2020, 02:21:20 PMfor longer config to prohibit......two motors next to each other, but enforce two motors next to DT ?
Quote from: Vladki on October 15, 2020, 02:21:20 PM- minimum configurtion is DT-M-M-M-DT (DT=driving trailer, M = moror).
Quote from: Vladki on October 15, 2020, 02:21:20 PMRegarding liveries - now the 801 (virgin livery) has much darker middle cars, than the front a and rear driving trailers.
Quote from: Vladki on November 06, 2020, 04:42:40 PMI am preparing a patch allowing any motor after trailer, thus allowing units like:DTS-MS-MS-TS-Mx-DTxDTS-MS-MS-TS-MS-TS-Mx-DTxI think these should be allowed. No reason to enforce MC in these combinations.Hovewer I found that it is also possible to make unit like this:DTS-MS-MS-TS-MS-MC-MF-DTxSo for even numbered units (6,8, ..) there will be always a high and low power variant.For odd numebre units (5,7,9,..) it will be always two motors at each end, and nicely alternated m/t in between.
Quote from: Vladki on November 03, 2020, 11:23:26 PMI also thought about enforcing standard class rear (Rear-trolley) after RearMS, and first class rear (compact or full kitchen) after MiddleCOmposite and MiddleFirst.
Quote from: jonbridg on November 17, 2020, 12:10:56 AMI'm delighted to announce that, to mark the introduction of the first Class 769 units to services in South Wales today, I have also pushed the Simutrans version!
Quote from: Vladki on November 23, 2020, 07:47:22 PMJames, can you pleas merge https://github.com/jamespetts/simutrans-pak128.britain/pull/100 ?
Quote from: ScotRail170434 on January 02, 2021, 02:37:34 AMPossible to do some more modern units?For example, 318/320/158/156 in Saltire?Need loads of Scottish liveries for a project WIP.