Started by Mariculous, October 04, 2020, 04:23:24 PM
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Quote from: Freahk on October 19, 2020, 07:12:37 PMOrganising things by throwing them all on a huge heap of stuff seems contradictory to me.I want to improve usability, not trample on it!Throwing everything into the same menu does not organise anything. Sure, we don't need to open two menus, but it's simply even more chaotic.At least in my opinion.I'd rather welcome moving light-rail related stuff into the light-rail/tram menu.
QuoteA dat file parameter could be used to stick different rail types together, so we can simply drag tram tracks and that will build the selected tram track on roads as well as the related "usual" rail on plain ground.In pak192.comic, I expect both to be coded the exact same, except from one being tram track, the other one being "real" tracks, but other paks might for sure handle this differently.Is that an acceptable solution?
Quote from: jamespetts on October 25, 2020, 02:00:42 PMAs explained, this is problematic because there is no clear boundary between heavy and light rail, thus, there is no sensible way of deciding which should be in one menu and which in the other. It would be extremely confusing to players building a railway to find that, when they want to lay relatively cheap/light tracks (e.g. for a branch to a small goods terminal or for carriage sidings), they have to look in the tram menu.
Quote from: jamespetts on October 25, 2020, 02:00:42 PMI can see potential merit in this but also potential problems. first of all, we still need the first tile of dragging to remain a proper tram track to allow depots to be built (unless there is also a solution for building depots without needing to do this?).
Quote from: jamespetts on October 25, 2020, 02:00:42 PMSecondly, I can see potential problems with associations between rail and tram tracks needing to be different at different points in time
Quote from: jamespetts on October 25, 2020, 02:00:42 PMor players sometimes wanting to have choice over which rail track is associated with a tram track and preferring something other than the default, leading to confusion.
Quote from: jamespetts on October 25, 2020, 02:00:42 PMconnecting tram to rail lines in paksets that do not implement this