Started by Sirius, October 08, 2021, 10:39:20 AM
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Quote from: Freahk on October 08, 2021, 10:39:20 AMWhoever is responsible for the simutrans organisation on github, could you please set this up, so I can pass my repository of simutrans-extended to the simutrans organisation?
Quote from: sdog on October 09, 2021, 01:19:43 AMIs James alright?
Quote from: MatthewHello, gentlemen! As you know, it's been just over a week since Bridgewater-Brunel froze and we haven't had an update from James since then. The good news is that I have evidence that he is alive and well. The bad news is that if he is alive & well but not responding to messages about B-B, he may be on a lengthy hiatus.
Quote from: Roboron on October 08, 2021, 02:54:49 PMThere are more people with access. One of them is precisely jamespetts. Another one is aburch. But of course they don't use it, since their repositories are not on the organization, for whatever reason.I agree that there are clear advantages for using the organization, and I've used it whenever I could. It's such a pity that we don't take advantage of it.
Quote from: sdog on October 09, 2021, 10:24:53 PMI suppose we also need a pak128.britain-ex team. Who's innit?
Quote from: Freahk on October 09, 2021, 01:43:33 AMWe don't have much information as well. Maybe Mathew can tell a bit more.
Quote from: prissi on October 24, 2021, 11:59:10 AMSInce SImutrans-experimental is already is a fork of aburch/simutrans and is in simutrans organization, standard cannot go there anymore, it seems.
Quote from: prissi on October 25, 2021, 12:24:06 AMIt strongly oppose creating something named "Simutrans-Standard"
Quote from: Roboron on June 22, 2022, 02:57:03 PMThe aburch repository currently links the SVN accounts to our GitHub profiles, but this new repository does not. Can it be configured the same way?
Quote from: Sirius on June 22, 2022, 10:16:04 PMShould be best to sync this with the aburch git repository, not the svn one.That way commit hashes will be the same in both
Quote from: Andarix on October 27, 2021, 05:06:06 PMIt's not much different with Standard. Feedback has generally become very rare at Simutrans, if it has not always been that way.But you can announce releases and thus enable the distribution among the players.I also think that the little feedback here comes from the fact that Simutrans is very fragmented on the Internet. Simutrans has a long fork list. But very few users have ever read here. https://github.com/aburch/simutrans/network/membersAnd ultimately you also ask yourself whether the behavior of Simutrans / Pakset is an error or whether it is intentional. Since there is little documentation about how what should work, the evaluation is rather impossible for pure gamers. Even players who have been following Simutrans for a long time have problems assessing certain behavior.And if documentation is available, you can often no longer find it because you don't even know what to look for.an exampleA few years ago it was installed that factories could increase their production. But I never found a documentation of what was intended and how it works. That was probably programmed by Knightly. But whether that was finished or not, nobody knows anymore. So even if you want to document something, you can hardly find any information about it. In any case, it is very tedious and time-consuming to obtain information. And so functions that have now existed have probably been forgotten.
Quote from: prissi on June 23, 2022, 07:54:50 AMBut I wonder how git can generate different hashes when committing the same code diffs
Quote from: prissi on June 24, 2022, 01:28:54 AMWith svn, I can check out a revision compile it and via the svn revision I am sure the server will stay in sync (unless there are problems in the code)
Quote from: Sirius on June 23, 2022, 05:53:46 PMIn the former case, you will simply keep pushing to the svn. To stay in sync with aburch, you will then pull changes from there.
Quote from: Sirius on June 23, 2022, 05:53:46 PMIn the latter case, you will stop committing to the svn and will instead commit to simutrans/simutrans directly.
Quote from: prissi on June 23, 2022, 07:54:50 AMI will rather ask aburch to delete this one
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Quote from: prissi on June 25, 2022, 03:57:19 AMAlso the nice feature of collection contributions works only for emails on github. So any email added before (like mine and Dwachs) will not show on github.
Quote from: prissi on June 25, 2022, 03:57:19 AMThese are some compelling reasons to forget the old hashes of the broken aburch repo, or at least change this after a certain commit on simutrans/simutrans (if possible)
Quote from: Sirius on July 08, 2022, 07:15:42 PMI am not sure about this.Why do we need aburch to upload his repo to simutrans/simutrans?
Quote from: prissi on July 09, 2022, 05:49:37 AMBut the aburch repo history is broken. Why should be upload a broken history?
Quote from: prissi on July 09, 2022, 03:10:28 PMAburch repo is broken, its commit history is damaged, for whatever reasons. That cannot be a proper base for anything. Let's remove aburch, before more harm is done. In git one can rebase repos
Quote from: Sirius on July 09, 2022, 02:46:44 PMI don't think we need aburch to do anything to get a clone of his repository set up.
git remote add simutrans https://github.com/simutrans/simutrans.gitgit rebase simutrans/master
git remote add simutrans https://github.com/simutrans/simutrans.gitgit checkout mastergit reset --hard simutrans/master
git push --force
git reset --hard
Quote from: prissi on July 09, 2022, 03:10:28 PMWith the split of several files, there is almost no way to port fixes between these version any more without lots of manual work.
QuoteMoreover, I doubt extended has really any interest in standard fixes apart from ranran. I spent some days to have the file reorganisation to be done via a script, but extended seems to have no intention to follow that and has consequently drifted further apart.
Quote from: Sirius on July 25, 2022, 04:14:34 PMSuddenly, I have been mentioned on an old post?I did not reply to this as I think all relevant points have been raised already. Both approaches have their pros and I am not here to make decisions on standard. I'm just here just to clarify technical (im)possibilities that are none, so you can make these decisions by yourself.