Started by Matthew, May 18, 2022, 03:47:35 PM
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Quote from: Matthew on May 18, 2022, 03:47:35 PMAt the moment (IIRC) this pakset prohibits all underground stops except tube stations on tube track.
Quote from: Sirius on May 18, 2022, 08:48:52 PMI'd like to introduce: The Duobus!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPYG7h1U5G0
Quote from: Ranran on May 25, 2022, 03:44:50 PMI don't think it is right to be a terminal. In most cases, one of the two lanes in the same direction is where passengers disembark. There is no opposite direction. The terminal needs a place to make a U-turn. Also, I doubt that a connecting bus that requires 2 tiles would be able to stop correctly at the underground terminal bus stop.It is not surprising that underground bus stops are more expensive than above ground bus stops, which only work by placing a landmark post, but that can be adequately simulated by simply increasing the cost of installing a bus stop with allow_underground=1.
QuoteThe difference is not just the cost:
QuoteThis is what needs to be simulated.
Quotean underground 'bus terminal is never actually in the flow of traffic on a road.
Quote from: Sirius on May 23, 2022, 08:28:09 PMIs there any difference in diesel Busses running in tunnels compared to diesel and steam trains running in tunnels?I don't think so. So why should we ban diesel busses whilst allowing diesel and steam trains?
Quote from: Ranran on May 28, 2022, 01:49:48 AMAs mentioned in the previous post, the layout is generally such that there is one side lane for boarding and alighting and one lane for overtaking, allowing the bus to pass a stationary bus.
Quote from: Octavius on May 29, 2022, 10:59:54 PMI'm not sure. For bus stations, both open air and in basements, two layouts appear common. Most around here have 3–15 parallel platforms for one bus each, but I know a few that have a platform for about 4 buses after another and a passing lane, or two such long platforms with a passing lane each. There is a blend form:
Quote from: PJMack on May 30, 2022, 07:56:48 PMThe MBTA Courthouse Station listed above only has one lane in each direction with no way for buses to pass each other. It is primary for trolley-buses only, but there were instances where low emission diesel buses were used temporarily. I believe OTRP branch has a flag that can be applied to road way (in addition to the one-way flags) that prevents city vehicles from spawning on them and cities from automatically connecting to them. Perhaps porting this to extended would help with allowing players to build BRT systems.
Quote from: PJMack on May 30, 2022, 07:56:48 PMI believe OTRP branch has a flag that can be applied to road way (in addition to the one-way flags) that prevents city vehicles from spawning on them and cities from automatically connecting to them. Perhaps porting this to extended would help with allowing players to build BRT systems.
Quote from: prissi on April 05, 2021, 12:29:55 PMAs why OTRP had not been in put into standard:There were some minor differencies upon how to implement it (I was favouring a direction wayobj so any road could be upgraded versus using a special road).
Quote from: Ranran on May 30, 2022, 09:10:25 AMCrossing the road is dangerous and such layouts tend to be excluded.
Quote from: Octavius on May 31, 2022, 07:41:46 PMI also found a particular German habit. At Frankfurt am Main, Hamburg, Hannover and München Hbf, part of the bus platforms are bay platforms, requiring the bus to reverse on departure, back to a one-way street closed to ordinary traffic, before proceeding to the exit of the station.I concur
Quoteand cities from automatically connecting to them.
Quote from: jamespetts on May 31, 2022, 12:11:45 PMThe discussion of prohibitive constraints is interesting. I think that the exsiting logic should already prevent private cars from entering roads with prohibitive constraints and prevent these roads becoming public rights of way by diversionary routes (as the route finder object would lack the necessary matching constraint), but this would not stop such a road being taken over automatically in a town. Perhaps it is just this one element, not allowing a town to adopt a road with a prohibitive constraint, that needs to be added.
Quote from: PJMack on May 31, 2022, 11:27:32 PMSoldiers Field Road and Storrow Drive in Boston which has a height limit of only 10' (3m).