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Work in Progress: Zoo
« on: December 08, 2009, 11:34:00 PM »
Hi

I've been working on a zoo (3x3), I have used graphics from graphics.simutrans.com, The fence of the cage of lions is the Timothy's fence edited and the animals from here http://www.fntnhrl.com/portfolio/pixel-zoo/ (Thanks to Fintan, for allow me to use and edit the illustration pixel-zoo-animals.png).

You can see the progress here:



Can somebody help me with an entrace archway with the word 'zoo'? Ideas are welcomed. Thanks.

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« Last Edit: December 22, 2009, 12:41:37 PM by Diegote »

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2009, 11:54:04 PM »
Looks great! I would just add some aquatic animals like dolphins o seals.

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 12:10:39 AM »
Looks great! I would just add some aquatic animals like dolphins o seals.

It's a good idea, maybe I do a pool with dolphins and seals in the empty corner

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2009, 08:54:14 AM »
Looks very nice. But I miss a fence in the background of the pound.

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2009, 10:26:37 AM »
Looks very nice. But I miss a fence in the background of the pound.
I think the fence is there, but it's hard to see :)

Nice work.

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2009, 12:52:37 PM »
Very nice :) Any plans to animate the animals? That'd look really cool.

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 01:47:31 PM »
Very nice :) Any plans to animate the animals? That'd look really cool.

Thanks. I don't have enough skill to draw it  :P

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2009, 04:57:43 PM »
look great!waiting your share:D

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2009, 05:45:00 PM »
Preview 2:


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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2009, 06:48:52 PM »
Boo! No monkeys?  :o
But really looking forward to it.
Thanks for the work :)

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2009, 09:14:36 PM »
Great :)

The orca is super-cool!

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2009, 08:34:19 AM »
Lions and elephants are good - but I have small idea - to create aquarium show - there orcas could be - but in zoo should be else animals than orcas. It remind me very stupid game Zoo tycoon.

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2009, 10:49:19 AM »
I was thinking about that yesterday

Great :)

The orca is super-cool!

Thanks  :)

Lions and elephants are good - but I have small idea - to create aquarium show - there orcas could be - but in zoo should be else animals than orcas. It remind me very stupid game Zoo tycoon.

Yes, I was thinking about that yesterday after finishing the orca, this is more related to Seaworld. Maybe I delete the aquarium, and add some giraffes, zebras, etc.

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2009, 11:53:42 AM »
The zoo looks great.
But you have to put a fence at the backside of the pond.

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2009, 12:27:56 PM »
I really like how this is shaping up. It looks really nice :)

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2009, 02:14:47 PM »
But you have to put a fence at the backside of the pond.

The fence is there, but is overlapped with the color of the path. Then I'll fix it.

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2009, 06:58:21 PM »
Maybe I delete the aquarium, and add some giraffes, zebras, etc.

Preferable. If so, it would be easier to make it animated (if you want of course).  ;D

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2009, 06:42:41 AM »
Looks great! I would use it like it is now, but I can't wait to see it all finished! I'm guessing it's going to be a tourist point? I guess I could possibly see it as a factory drop-off point, though... for uh... fish or something, heh.
And since everyone is asking for other animals, maybe you could make a second version? Maybe just a little switch of the animals for the sake of variety :)

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2009, 01:37:13 PM »
Preferable. If so, it would be easier to make it animated (if you want of course).  ;D

If you can help me :),  maybe you can animate 1 animal, so I can see if it looks fine or not.

I'm guessing it's going to be a tourist point? I guess I could possibly see it as a factory drop-off point, though... for uh... fish or something, heh.

Probably I will make a tourist point.
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And since everyone is asking for other animals, maybe you could make a second version? Maybe just a little switch of the animals for the sake of variety :)

Right now, I can't finish it  :P ,  I'm trying to add the final touches (trees, tourist point, facilities, paths, etc.)

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2009, 03:40:33 PM »
I'm close to finish it


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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2009, 04:46:15 PM »
muy bien trabajo me a gustado como quedo cuando abra descargas

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2009, 05:17:46 PM »
Simply impressive!! Is that a polar bear?

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2009, 05:43:26 PM »
muy bien trabajo me a gustado como quedo cuando abra descargas

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2009, 06:03:22 PM »
Simply impressive!! Is that a polar bear?

Yes  :)

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2009, 01:00:27 PM »
Cool~ (Even at this moment I do gaming with Pak 64...)
GOOD WORK!
What do our folks thinking about the aquarium??
(It may sounded tricky to suggest that:
since the aquarium always built inside the building, which unlike the zoo.)

Could a stage for Whales' shows a better way to show "This is a aquarium. Tourists enjoyed the Whale talent shows a lot, or even a chance to feed them."[Oh, sounded alike the Ocean Park on Hong Kong Island, but surly some shows alike that.]

Er, it is just a merely suggestion to do with the fishes. (Or we may need a bigger space for those aquarium facilities if we do want to have the zoo and the aquarium BOTH.)

PS Wa's Resizeobj converts your Pak 128 buildings into Pak 64s. I wonder this tool can help Pak 64s' players enjoy the Pak 128 world. (Japanese Simutrans Page> Links> Wa's.....) [Warning: Japanese speaking (Get use of Google translation for a merely better English translation.)]

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2009, 09:56:19 PM »
very nice building, I hope you will keep drawing ;)

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2009, 03:38:41 PM »
What do you think about the zoo sign?


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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2009, 03:41:40 PM »
Looks good to me. I also like the crisp and colorful appearance of the zoo.

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2009, 03:43:53 PM »
I like it a lot. It's a pity the scale of Simutrans doesn't allow us to have much larger buildings, because I'd love to see this be at least 4x bigger -- which is to say, I like it a lot. :)

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2009, 04:35:21 PM »
Thanks, I'm testing other zoo signs and then I will terminate the addon.

Probably my next project: a golf course
(very early preview)


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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2009, 04:53:44 PM »
Probably my next project: a golf course
(very early preview)


very nice!
i can't talk for VS, but i'd like to see these addons in main pak.

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2009, 05:09:03 PM »
@fabio: Thanks. About golf course: I was testing various textures and is quite difficult to find the right colors, also, I work in 2d and it's very difficult to create the golf course slopes. I'm not sure if I can continue it.  :-[
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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2009, 06:41:15 PM »
I like it a lot. It's a pity the scale of Simutrans doesn't allow us to have much larger buildings, because I'd love to see this be at least 4x bigger -- which is to say, I like it a lot. :)

You can have buildings up to 16x16 tiles in size, they do become slightly unwieldy beyond about 4x4 though.

Zoo and golf course both look great though :) Good job! (And of course, a use for TileCutter)

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2009, 06:44:50 PM »
Well, but I mean in the context of a city - a 16x16 city is decently sized already, much less to have a zoo or something added... hehe

I wish we could practically have huge maps where the "1km"-scale of the tiles was more like "100m" - then a 16x16 tile structure would fit nicely :)

(But I know this is not practical - just wishing) :)

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2009, 07:10:36 PM »
AFAIK the 1km scale is "assumed", i.e. no reason apart from computing power why it needs to be 1km rather than anything else.  I don't think it gets used internally at all.  I generally prefer to have my games produce very large maps with much larger cities with smaller production rates and larger stop catchments, so in my mind one tile is much less than 1km... I suppose it boils down to computer power.

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2009, 07:28:11 PM »
Well, whether it's 1km or something else; there's definitely a "large scale" - consider the distances factories are apart. There's no way it would be profitable to transport goods that short of a distance if the scale was the "small scale"; so the exact nature of the "large scale" is unimportant.

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #36 on: December 21, 2009, 08:04:26 AM »
but imho a 16*16 attraction could be something like a "national park", or an entire "historical centre" with many buildings and very narrow alleys between them...

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #37 on: December 21, 2009, 09:35:22 AM »
And with no way to get complete coverage of it ;)

All graphics here are really nice...

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2009, 10:28:09 AM »
well, it could be covered by subway ;D
or ot could be painted leaving space for a few access roads (i.e. asymmetrical building)
e.g. a 16*16 National park could have this kind of map:

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where X are painted tiles and . are tiles left "free" (i.e. using - in DATS)

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2009, 11:57:08 AM »
well, it could be covered by subway ;D
or ot could be painted leaving space for a few access roads (i.e. asymmetrical building)
e.g. a 16*16 National park could have this kind of map:

X X . X X X X X X X X X . . . .
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where X are painted tiles and . are tiles left "free" (i.e. using - in DATS)

Has anyone tried that already?

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2009, 11:59:59 AM »
Perhaps you could get it, coding each national park tile as a field.

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2009, 12:02:11 PM »
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e.g. a 16*16 National park could have this kind of map:

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Even in this case you can't cover every tile...

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2009, 01:25:24 PM »
I finished this project. (at least until I can think of some improvement in the zoo sign) Any sugestion?

Special thanks to Fintan, for allow me to use and edit the illustration pixel-zoo-animals.png.



Code: [Select]
Obj=building
Name=zoo
Type=cur
Copyright=Diegote
Passengers=12
Build_Time=8000
intro_year=1900
chance=10
dims=3,3,1
BackImage[0][0][0][0][0][0]=images/zoo.0.0
BackImage[0][0][1][0][0][0]=images/zoo.0.1
BackImage[0][0][2][0][0][0]=images/zoo.0.2
BackImage[0][1][0][0][0][0]=images/zoo.1.0
BackImage[0][1][1][0][0][0]=images/zoo.1.1
BackImage[0][1][2][0][0][0]=images/zoo.1.2
BackImage[0][2][0][0][0][0]=images/zoo.2.0
BackImage[0][2][1][0][0][0]=images/zoo.2.1
BackImage[0][2][2][0][0][0]=images/zoo.2.2

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #43 on: December 21, 2009, 01:38:22 PM »
Even in this case you can't cover every tile...
well, those roads should be studied better, to allow a full coverage, but this is the idea, IMO.

I finished this project. (at least until I can think of some improvement in the zoo sign) Any sugestion?
Very nice!
the only suggestions i can think of are:
- winter image (well, this is challenging for a zoo! what is poor elephant doing in snow? the bear instead would be happy ;D)
- no ground (use needs_ground parameter) for pic nic area, fountain and in the top-right position
- maybe different rotations, but this is not mandatory...

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #44 on: December 21, 2009, 01:59:53 PM »
Very nice!
the only suggestions i can think of are:
- winter image (well, this is challenging for a zoo! what is poor elephant doing in snow? the bear instead would be happy ;D)

It's a lot of work and I'm not a professional drawer at all. I feel sorry for the bear  :D

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- no ground (use needs_ground parameter) for pic nic area, fountain and in the top-right position

Ok.

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- maybe different rotations, but this is not mandatory...

It's also a lot of work, maybe a 2.0 version  ;D

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #45 on: December 21, 2009, 03:06:10 PM »
It's a lot of work and I'm not a professional drawer at all. I feel sorry for the bear  :D

I perfectly know!
don't worry, they are just ideas.
It would be nice to have summer/winter mode for all buildings, in order to have a more consistent pakset.
Maybe just some patches of snow could be enough (using needs_ground already does it, and it fits better with the various climates). For the rest, we can assume the zoo workers accurately remove the snow :::)

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #46 on: December 25, 2009, 07:44:47 PM »
It would be nice to have summer/winter mode for all buildings, in order to have a more consistent pakset.



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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #47 on: December 25, 2009, 08:00:26 PM »
diegote, can i make an version for pak64 of your zoo?
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the my project is  "bho" :-[ :-[ :-[
il mio progetto è saltato  :-[ :-[ :-[
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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #48 on: December 25, 2009, 08:14:15 PM »
diegote, can i make an version for pak64 of your zoo?

Yes, sure   :)

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Sorry, I don't undestand  ???

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #49 on: December 25, 2009, 08:59:31 PM »
Well done! Although I pity the animals standing in the snow...

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2009, 04:36:29 PM »
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Well done! Although I pity the animals standing in the snow...

I think elephant and lions are already frozen ...  ;D

However, the roof of the central building has not any snow  ???

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2009, 05:21:24 PM »
I think elephant and lions are already frozen ...  ;D

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However, the roof of the central building has not any snow  ???

It's work in progress. However, in the final version of the snowy zoo, elephants and lions won't be frozen and buildings will have some snow.
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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #52 on: December 26, 2009, 06:37:39 PM »
Diegote, really a very nice building and idea. Exactly a zoo was missing for a very long time. Thank you for that!

As I read, that you are planning to continue your work on buildings, I can give you some ideas. As I work on big maps and scenarios, based on real geography, I found some missing stuff. Not to force you, but to give a clue, what is missing in pak128.

- Cemetary
- Theatre
- University/Institute
- Lake/Swimming pool
- Office/Authorities
- Sports hall/Gym
- Hostel/Dormitory
- Jail
- Old Pub/Restaurant
- Library
- Garden
- Fair
- Gallery/Museum
- Spa/Sanatorium
- Parliament/Ministry
- Police Station
- Spring/Fountain
- Playground
- Monastery
- Gamekeepers'

This is the List of Buildings, which do miss so far, which can be found in every bigger city.
I though e.g., that a cemetary could be a slight variation of the zoo, because it is similar...

Maybe you find something in the list :-)

Greetings and Merry christmas,

Oliver

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #53 on: December 26, 2009, 11:12:41 PM »
very  nice!

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2010, 01:39:42 PM »
Cool zoo!

So advance o.o
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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #55 on: May 22, 2010, 02:27:17 PM »
It's a pixel-art graphic. I'm currently making a complete tutorial for that on SNFOS'website, just wait some days ;)

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2010, 12:16:08 AM »
It's a pixel-art graphic. I'm currently making a complete tutorial for that on SNFOS'website, just wait some days ;)

Tuts for Paint.NET?

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2010, 09:07:15 AM »
No, sorry, I use photofiltre  ;D

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #58 on: May 23, 2010, 10:36:46 AM »
No, sorry, I use photofiltre  ;D

Ok...
 

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #59 on: May 23, 2010, 11:25:47 AM »
paint.net is too complicated for me, sorry :/

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #60 on: August 20, 2010, 07:48:22 AM »
paint.net is too complicated for me, sorry :/

To me, even though Paint.NET is hard, it is fine.

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Re: Work in Progress: Zoo
« Reply #61 on: June 05, 2012, 11:02:37 PM »
I would like it if the elephant exhibit became a safari exhibit, with giraffes, zebras, wildebeest, antelopes, meerkats, warthogs, hippos, etc. And I would also like dolphins and sea lions added to the flamingo pool. And will you add the orca show back, but in a different area of the zoo? You could just expand the zoo.  ;D ;D ;D