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Simutrans Wikis
« on: November 16, 2008, 04:33:31 PM »
There are now 7 wikis.

Tikiwiki ( German, English, Swedish, Czech, Português ) Development section 20 languages
english ( Mediawiki ) out dated - moved to Tikiwiki
japanese ( Pukiwiki )
french ( Mediawiki )
spanish ( Mediawiki )
italian ( Mediawiki )

Programming Wiki english, not editable by normal users
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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2009, 07:52:50 AM »
Dat-reference on the German wiki:

http://simutrans-germany.com/wiki/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=en_dat_Files

The pages on the 'German wiki' are partly translated to English (and other languages). Pages in German are usually up-to-date. Any help with translation is appreciated. This wiki allows anonymous edits.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2009, 03:17:58 PM by Dwachs »

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2009, 04:15:03 PM »
I hope that I am posting this in the right place - I should like to apply for a Wiki account. I am interested in completing the .dat file reference for the English language.

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2009, 04:59:24 PM »
for Tikiwiki wiki.simutrans-germany.com register in wiki your self

other wikis ( MediaWiki ) create a admin your account

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2009, 05:03:07 PM »
The Tikiwiki is just in the German language, isn't it? I tried creating an account in MediaWiki, but there was no option, and I was directed to the forum to ask somebody here to create an account for me, which is what I was doing with the message above...

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2009, 05:12:38 PM »
The Tikiwiki is just in the German language, isn't it? ...

the development section is in 21 languages

en
en-uk


missing the text, parameters to 95 % completly
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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2009, 05:23:46 PM »
Ahh, I see. Is the Tikiwiki the most up-to-date one, then? I was under the impression from the original post in this thread that that wiki was only German.

Edit: Whenever I tried to register on that page, it gave me an error without any further information (it just said "Error" at the top, and, further down, "You are not logged in").

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2009, 05:33:38 PM »
...
Edit: Whenever I tried to register on that page, it gave me an error without any further information (it just said "Error" at the top, and, further down, "You are not logged in").

Javascript and Cookies activated?

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2009, 05:42:08 PM »
I think so...

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2009, 02:21:35 AM »
the register page works for me ( testet de-IE7 and en-FF3 )

you can edited en and other languages by anonymous

de require register

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2009, 07:55:51 PM »
I tried again using IE-tab, but I had no success - it still gave an error message that simply said "error". Also, that wiki is in German - I cannot find the English version. Is it  not possible to register for the MediaWiki?

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2009, 08:43:07 PM »
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Seriously. Who is that mythical admin of English wiki? Last I remember it was Benjad - and that was perhaps two years back. Now try perhaps Dirk Burkholz (dburkholz?) and Kristian (aka stormoog).

If nobody steps up within a week, I will edit database and proclaim a random user of choice new admin for life. And cage him so that he can't run away like the previous failed experiments 8)

German wiki is lately more offline than my grandmother :( edit: ok, now it is back. Probably bad timing (every day?).

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2009, 01:57:27 AM »
... Also, that wiki is in German - I cannot find the English version. ...

because nobody in the last 1 1/2 years managed the German translated into English

english development section

in english Mediawiki in last 1 years no write a user a longer texts

the English Mediawiki has not even the contents of the old English Tikiwikis after nearly 2 years

...
German wiki is lately more offline than my grandmother :( edit: ok, now it is back. Probably bad timing (every day?).

I have no problems, and I call on the wiki several times daily on

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2009, 05:28:26 AM »
If I may, I would maybe like to take a shot at at least trying to update a little bit of the Wiki reference- I've been playing with Simutrans for about 9 years now. And I will try to exploit as many of the features in some test games and perhaps have English text to contribute for the wiki.

Heheh though interestingly the development moves at light speed with Simutrans.

-Seth

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2009, 04:16:36 PM »
Seriously. Who is that mythical admin of English wiki? Last I remember it was Benjad - and that was perhaps two years back. Now try perhaps Dirk Burkholz (dburkholz?) and Kristian (aka stormoog).
I'm still administrating the English wiki and even seldomly adding new users. Unfortunately none of them are contributing currently...

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2009, 05:43:01 PM »
I'm still administrating the English wiki and even seldomly adding new users. Unfortunately none of them are contributing currently...
My idea was to make the english-wiki much better. This was for a lot of month. But I wanted no new dispute with Frank.

And I think the german-wiki can used with english. So is the english wiki important?

What wiki do you use? The german (in english) or the english?

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2009, 09:48:11 PM »
Well, I've always considered that German wiki was and is more complete. It contains a lot of specific info about dat files and object attributes. English wiki is more general (how to install, how to play, tips, tricks, etc..)

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2009, 07:48:32 AM »
Well, I've always considered that German wiki was and is more complete. It contains a lot of specific info about dat files and object attributes. English wiki is more general (how to install, how to play, tips, tricks, etc..)
Ok. But wich wiki do you suport?

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2009, 07:55:35 AM »
mainly, the ES version of english wiki..

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2009, 09:20:43 AM »
Should we have a poll?

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2009, 09:34:03 AM »
About what? Which wiki should the community support? Why not.. :)

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2009, 01:11:31 PM »
About what? Which wiki should the community support? Why not.. :)
Frank make a very good job at the german wiki. But we don't know what wiki will used from english-speaking people.

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2009, 01:40:34 PM »
Do you mean if it's worth to translate the german wiki to english or use the *official* wiki and add new stuff there from german wiki?

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2009, 01:50:25 PM »
I think, it is possible to translate at the german-wiki.

Edit: But this is not important, if all people search in the eng. Wiki. So we don't know what the user need.

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2009, 02:09:47 PM »
Therefore, what we really need to know first is which wiki is more used. I suggest you to create a poll at Simutrans Discussion board with the following content:

Question: What wiki do you use/visit more?
Options: German wiki -- English wiki -- Native language wiki (ES, IT, JP, FR)--- wiki? what wiki?

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2009, 02:21:07 PM »
How many wikis there are?
How are the Internet addresses?

First is the german wiki (TikiWiki): http://simutrans-germany.com/wiki/wiki/tiki-index.php (No english mainpage, I think)
Second the englisch wiki (MediaWiki): http://en.wiki.simutrans.com/index.php/Main_Page (some pages are in italian)

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2009, 02:33:09 PM »
the Simutrans wiki frontpage is wiki.simutrans.com, from where you can access to EN, ES, JP, FR, DE and IT wikis.

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2009, 02:52:36 PM »
Is this all the same MediaWiki? I mean, there is no cross-linking between this wikis.

Ok. I will build a poll.

Edit: Oh. I can't make a poll in Simutrans discussion.  :(

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2009, 03:01:21 PM »
As far as I know, all are independent wikis, but actually I'm not sure at all.

For the poll, ask to an admin...

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2009, 03:32:16 PM »
The question is not: Waht for wiki?

The question is: Dat reference from tikiwiki for all languages?

yes or no

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2009, 03:36:47 PM »
From my part, I would use german wiki as Dat Reference for all languages and english wiki for the rest of things (tips, howto's, etc..)

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2009, 03:42:20 PM »
As far as I know, all are independent wikis, but actually I'm not sure at all.
The wikis are independent.

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2009, 06:21:32 PM »
The german link at wiki.simutrans.com is broken. The www. is to much.

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2009, 07:33:06 PM »
Really, it does not make any sense to have more than one wiki per language...

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Re: Simutrans Wikis
« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2009, 07:11:02 AM »
The german link at wiki.simutrans.com is broken. The www. is to much.

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