Author Topic: general survey on the players play Simutrans (Read 42809 times)

Frank · « **Reply #35 on:** August 23, 2010, 02:00:26 PM »

over 100 participants have been achieved

Interested members who wish to display the survey in their own language is the translation file attached.

An_dz · « **Reply #36 on:** September 09, 2010, 08:33:51 PM »

Quote from: Frank on August 23, 2010, 02:00:26 PM

Interested members who wish to display the survey in their own language is the translation file attached.

OK Frank, I've translated it to portuguese.

IgorEliezer · « **Reply #37 on:** September 10, 2010, 01:41:29 AM »

Quote from: An_dz on September 09, 2010, 08:33:51 PM

OK Frank, I've translated it to portuguese.

*APPLAUSES*

vilvoh · « **Reply #38 on:** September 10, 2010, 08:02:01 AM »

Translated into Spanish too.

Zeno · « **Reply #39 on:** September 10, 2010, 08:43:50 AM »

Quote from: vilvoh on September 10, 2010, 08:02:01 AM

Translated into Spanish too.

*MORE APPLAUSES*

vilvoh · « **Reply #40 on:** September 10, 2010, 08:59:39 AM »

Quote from: Zeno on September 10, 2010, 08:43:50 AM

*MORE APPLAUSES*

Thanks to all...

Frank · « **Reply #41 on:** September 10, 2010, 09:19:04 AM »

thank you

upload to Tikiwiki

Frank · « **Reply #42 on:** January 01, 2011, 10:29:23 PM »

survey closed

earning

have many thanks to all who participated

An_dz · « **Reply #43 on:** January 01, 2011, 11:41:57 PM »

Wow, at least 6 girls playing the game.

Come on girls show your women power, spread Simutrans

Lets start a 2011 one?

sdog · « **Reply #44 on:** January 02, 2011, 04:37:13 AM »

perhaps we should spread the news it's not all about trains and trucks, but with some pack sets they could also play with horses!

skreyola · « **Reply #45 on:** January 02, 2011, 05:27:02 AM »

Someone needs to make a pack of all pretty horses... that go fast.

40mph team of horses, hehe.

Frank · « **Reply #46 on:** February 26, 2013, 09:15:19 PM »

new year new survey

survey 2013

sorry, translate not work in new Wiki

Combuijs · « **Reply #47 on:** February 26, 2013, 09:30:10 PM »

Filled it in!

An_dz · « **Reply #48 on:** February 26, 2013, 11:43:45 PM »

Filled and added on Facebook.

Isaac Eiland-Hall · « **Reply #49 on:** February 27, 2013, 01:33:59 AM »

This is going to be chaotic:

http://i.imgur.com/Y3SyVgj.png

hehehe

sdog · « **Reply #50 on:** February 27, 2013, 03:25:35 AM »

in this stage the poll has in its results mostly people who:
know simutrans perfectly, do so for a long time, are old, and don't actually play it :-)
devotees to the front!

Sarlock · « **Reply #51 on:** February 27, 2013, 03:35:22 AM »

And visit the forums multiple times a day and see this first

ӔO · « **Reply #52 on:** February 27, 2013, 03:58:23 AM »

screen sizes and resolution are quite chaotic, yep

I fully expected these sizes to be popular:

PC: 22~24"
laptop: 15.4"

and these resolutions
1366x768
1920x1080

Zeno · « **Reply #53 on:** February 27, 2013, 05:56:28 PM »

Absolutely. For statistics lovers, there are at the moment 3 variants of 22" monitors and 2 of 24". To say nothing about some strange resolutions such as 192x1200, etc.

Frank · « **Reply #54 on:** February 27, 2013, 07:22:48 PM »

do not panic because these two questions and their results

I need to provide some information only once to meaningful options

sdog · « **Reply #55 on:** February 28, 2013, 05:06:48 AM »

at the end the result of that poll is: "every user uses some kind of display device"

i wonder what the 15 foot display is

IgorEliezer · « **Reply #56 on:** February 28, 2013, 05:10:54 AM »

Quote from: sdog on February 28, 2013, 05:06:48 AM

i wonder what the 15 foot display is

Probably someone plays Simutrans in their particular movie theater.

Frank · « **Reply #57 on:** April 13, 2015, 09:28:25 PM »

it's time for a new survey 2015

Combuijs · « **Reply #58 on:** April 14, 2015, 08:26:13 AM »

Isaac Eiland-Hall · « **Reply #59 on:** April 14, 2015, 09:58:31 AM »

Spenk009 · « **Reply #60 on:** April 14, 2015, 06:21:50 PM »

Many people on small-ish screen resolutions. Don't you get cramped? I get a bit claustrophobic on 1920x1080 if I cram the map in too.

Isaac Eiland-Hall · « **Reply #61 on:** April 15, 2015, 04:20:10 PM »

My new¹ laptop has a screen resolution os 1366x768. It drives me batty. But it was all I could afford.

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¹ new to me, anyway

Ters · « **Reply #62 on:** April 15, 2015, 04:41:32 PM »

It's interresting that vertical space hasn't increased much in the last 15 years, until quite recently when 4K appeared (along with other super-HD resolutions). I don't find 1920x1080 cramped as long as I keep just 4 windows open, or map plus one other window, which I only exceed in rare cases. For the world view alone, pak128 would naturally show less of the world in 1920x1080 than pak64 does on 1024x768.

Isaac Eiland-Hall · « **Reply #63 on:** April 15, 2015, 07:02:20 PM »

I blame LCDs for that. Some good things about them, but at one point, I had dual-CRTs each running at 2048x1536. I miss that very much.

With LCDs, and the growing proportion of laptops, it set back resolution growth, I think.

Ters · « **Reply #64 on:** April 15, 2015, 08:22:12 PM »

Quote from: Isaac.Eiland-Hall on April 15, 2015, 07:02:20 PM

[...] at one point, I had dual-CRTs each running at 2048x1536.

For that, I'd have to buy another desk to place the mouse and keyboard on. (But in the CRT days, computer desks had drawers of sorts for the keyboard and mouse.)

But I do wonder if Simutrans is readable in 4K. I've just learned that a piece of software I've worked on becomes unreadable in such resolutions, like all such Java applications apparently. (Unless you sit as close to a 40" as you would a 20" I guess.)

sdog · « **Reply #65 on:** April 15, 2015, 08:32:38 PM »

I cann't really see a point in resolutions beyond 1920x1080 for notebooks. When crawling into the display, so to say, I can only see individual pixels on the new 12" or 13" 1080 hd screen because I'm so myopic. But those high resolutions drain batteries quite quickly. In the end it is for most applications more important to have a notebook that uses 6W rather than 7W under light load.

On the desktop it just drives up screen sizes: I'm not so sure if it is so good to sit right in front of a screen that is a metre wide.

DrSuperGood · « **Reply #66 on:** April 15, 2015, 09:23:00 PM »

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But those high resolutions drain batteries quite quickly.

The resolution itself does not drain the battery for reasons you said, rather what is being displayed does (or how it is produced). In the case of Simutrans with its software render then display area in pixels converts directly to processor load and so energy consumption.

For most applications however (eg browsing or looking at file managers) a discrete GPU (or integrated) will barely be loaded at all. As such the power consumption increase from the resolution is minimal. The same can be said about the CPU (Simutran's problem) where anything that loads it heavily causes a sharp increase in power.

Isaac Eiland-Hall · « **Reply #67 on:** April 16, 2015, 01:06:49 AM »

Quote from: sdog on April 15, 2015, 08:32:38 PM

I cann't really see a point in resolutions beyond 1920x1080 for notebooks.

I'm sure that's true for many, but I use my Kindle Fire with its high DPI and am fine fitting a lot on there for the size. If I had a larger monitor that pixel dense... I'd be fine with that, too. I crave more pixels. Always more pixels.

sdog · « **Reply #68 on:** April 16, 2015, 03:52:13 AM »

Quote from: DrSuperGood on April 15, 2015, 09:23:00 PM

The resolution itself does not drain the battery for reasons you said, rather what is being displayed does (or how it is produced). In the case of Simutrans with its software render then display area in pixels converts directly to processor load and so energy consumption.

Exactly that.

But also when the computer idles, to be able to provide stutter free, say 4k, video, and simple 3d all must be able to handle greater peaks, which limits power saving through undervolting, increases leak currents due to larger dies, requires larger heatsink areas, greater max currents from batteries. When dealing with baseline power of a few Watt this matters.*

*My outdated notebook has a baseline power of 8 to 9 W, measured with powertop. My wive's new notebook must be considerably more parsimonious, perhaps in the few Watt range. If the manufacturers claims are correct, 5.6 W under load, for playing HD video (45 Wh/8h).

Ters · « **Reply #69 on:** April 16, 2015, 04:53:30 AM »

Quote from: sdog on April 15, 2015, 08:32:38 PM

I can only see individual pixels

You're not supposed to see individual pixels. That's the point of high-res.

Quote from: sdog on April 15, 2015, 08:32:38 PM

I'm not so sure if it is so good to sit right in front of a screen that is a metre wide.

I remember when we used to look at desks. Those usually were, and still are, wider than that. Often much wider. Sure, one tended to focus on just one part, but I guess that's the idea with big screens as well.