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Offline benste

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Soft vs Regular Slope for Trams
« on: March 20, 2014, 06:23:16 PM »
Hi, i've noticed that the latest nightly reenabled streets to use regular slopes again, as opposed to trains which were discussed to be able to use softslopes only.


What about trams ? i'd consider them to be a train (as they can use train tracks) and only be able to use soft slopes.
Has there been any discussion about this ? Is it un purpose that i can build Tram tracks over exisiting street on a regular slope ?

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Re: Soft vs Regular Slope for Trams
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2014, 07:19:52 PM »
This depends on the pak set you use. Simutrans itself imposes no restrictions.

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Re: Soft vs Regular Slope for Trams
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2014, 08:41:57 PM »
i'd appreciate if one of the mods could move it to the respective section of openpak128

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Re: Soft vs Regular Slope for Trams
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2014, 10:08:45 AM »
Trams tracks up to 50 km/h use both (think of Lisbon or San Francisco) while faster tracks are limited to soft slopes.


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Re: Soft vs Regular Slope for Trams
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2014, 12:06:30 PM »
Sounds like an interesting idea, BUT i just checked it tram tracks with speed 70 are still allowed on regular slopes. (as you said >70 kmh is not allowed on regular slopes atm.


looking at it compared to roads and rails it seems to be a little bit inconsistent though.


Roads can use both up to a max speed of 90
Rails can't use it at all


=>> what do you think about allowing all modes of transportation until a fixed speed limit - e.g. 70 ?


This way all kinds of fast transport would be excluded and one more rail type included - even though iirc the speed 60 dissapears over time doesn't it ?

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Re: Soft vs Regular Slope for Trams
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2014, 02:46:39 PM »
I stand corrected, tram tracks are allowed up to 70km/h included. Train tracks will not be allowed though, but in the future narrow gauge tracks will be allowed for all their speeds (probably capping  at 90-100 km/h).
Considering that the game favors trains over other transports, my goal is to make them insanely expensive on mountainous landscapes, where other transports should be used instead.


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Re: Soft vs Regular Slope for Trams
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2014, 03:03:22 PM »
Sure introducing narrow gauge lines acutally would make it very reasonable to exclude regualr rail.
So what about the streets ? any reason for the different speed limit ? + are these decisions written down somewhere e.g. in the wiki - its so hard to realize the system without asking if you already know the game but just consider newbees ...