11.13 - Airplanes don't take off properly

[Zeno]

Don't know if it happened before, but in 11.13 airplanes just fly after loading, without the usual taking off process.

[jamespetts]

May I ask - which pakset are you using?

[Zeno]

Standard pak128.

[jamespetts]

Is this problem reproducible in Pak128.Britain-Ex 0.9.0? If not, I think that I have an idea where the problem is.

[Zeno]

No, not present in pak128.britain-ex. Some dat parameters? This behavior wasn't present in previous versions (11.6 or 11.7), was it??

[jamespetts]

This is, I strongly suspect, related to the code change to allow for VTOL for things such as airships: if an aircraft has a minimum runway length of 0, it is considered a VTOL aircraft and behaves accordingly. I think that I forgot that, in a non-compatible pakset, the default parameter is zero. I shall have to change the default. Thank you for your report!

[Zeno]

Oh, thanks James. I wasn't aware about the VTOL thing at all, that opens interesting options

[jamespetts]

Indeed.

[Spacethingy]

Sorry for the thread-jack, but any chance of that being implemented in Standard as well, when it's done? Helicopters represent a big hole in my Simutrans experience at the moment...

[greenling]

Hello Spacethingy
Helicopters in simutrans they are a missing thing but i can me rember that here im forum give some Helicopters addons.
But i do not know how they lay.

[Dwachs]

Sorry for the thread-jack, but any chance of that being implemented in Standard as well, when it's done? Helicopters represent a big hole in my Simutrans experience at the moment...

Looking for volunteers Here is the relevant commit in experimental:

https://github.com/jamespetts/simutrans-experimental/commit/e5944ce7d6f963da68f00899ea911deb0720c5b0

It depends loosely on the minimum runway length feature exclusively to experimental. This could be ported back as well.

[jamespetts]

Ahh, rats, forgot about this one when releasing 11.14 - however, this is now fixed on the 11.x branch.