Making Signals

The Hood · February 23, 2009, 10:52:56 PM

I'm trying to make a pakset of signals. Can anyone tell me what all the different entries in the dat file mean (I've looked on pak64 SVN and can't make much sense of what the dat file means!)?

Thanks

The Hood · February 24, 2009, 08:52:42 AM

I've now found Fabio's signal set on the old forum along with sources - I think I can make a bit more sense of those (as I am used to playing pak128!). Fabio, do you mind if I use your set as a template? (in fact the graphics will also end up looking very similar, as yours are British style, but mine will face the other way!)

One further question - in what situations is the "presignal third phase" used?

Frank · February 24, 2009, 08:56:43 AM

when you can german -> german Wiki ( en translate not complete )

when you can japanese -> japanese wiki

Quote... One further question - in what situations is the "presignal third phase" used? ...

is from old signal system

The Hood · February 24, 2009, 09:00:57 AM

Awesome, thanks! I think I can read most of the German anyway.

Dwachs · February 24, 2009, 08:15:23 PM

Just one quick additional question: Does simutrans assume that all signals are drawn for draw-on-right mode? If yes, this information should go on the wiki.

In pak128.japan there are some problems with signals, which imho originate from this implicit assumption.

prissi · February 24, 2009, 10:31:50 PM

Signals will be put on other side for drive_left automagically.

The Hood · February 24, 2009, 10:54:46 PM

Quote from: prissi on February 24, 2009, 10:31:50 PM
Signals will be put on other side for drive_left automagically.

I'm assuming that's for road signals only and not rail?

prissi · February 24, 2009, 11:07:01 PM

Rail too, I think.

The Hood · February 24, 2009, 11:14:32 PM

Not in my version (r2319).

jamespetts · February 24, 2009, 11:33:51 PM

In past versions that I've used, it seems to have worked for me.

z9999 · February 25, 2009, 06:26:31 AM

What is the problem ?

Signals for track don't change the left-right position.
So, if we make a left side signals, it will be drawn in the front of trains, and right side signals will be behinded by train.
Pak128.japan is the same. We know this.

Dwachs · February 25, 2009, 08:45:52 AM

Quote from: z9999 on February 25, 2009, 06:26:31 AM
Signals for track don't change the left-right position.

did not know this.

Could this be solved, if makeobj allows the definition of back/front-images for signals too, as it is for instance implemented for way-objects?

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