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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #140 on: November 26, 2012, 04:08:19 PM »
Those ship it very cool.

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #141 on: November 26, 2012, 09:19:33 PM »
Two more river buses - the River Runner 150 and 200 series which both operate on the Thames.




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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #142 on: November 26, 2012, 10:15:51 PM »
A hover craft landing dock would be a nice adition :-)

Tilting the concrete slab, to create an incline leading to the water. Slicing the back of the building to leave something that's just a facade and portal. (to be joined with a fitting station building on the adjacent tile. If blend files are available and blender set up perhaps not very difficult.
(Not trained to do it myself though, sorry.)

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #143 on: November 26, 2012, 10:21:17 PM »
Not sure what you mean by that. Anyway, moving onto seagoing catamarans, the "Our Lady" class of 1986 which were used by Sealink between Portsmouth and the Isle of Wight.



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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #144 on: November 26, 2012, 10:28:44 PM »
Hovercraft dock: see picture here. It's just a particularly wide slipway. There are 3 of them on the Solent, at Southsea, Ryde and Lee (where the hovercraft museum is, where they keep the baby hovercraft inside the belly of the big cross-channel car carrying hovercraft!)


At the risk of causing chaos - don't forget technically hovercraft can drive on land as well...  :o

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #145 on: November 26, 2012, 10:57:58 PM »
Lovely additions!

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #146 on: November 27, 2012, 03:08:02 AM »
Here is a suggestion for a catamaran ferry. The sea cat (image as an attachment) is a trans channel ferry that serves a Dover to Calle, France. I hope you add it as a ferry!

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #147 on: November 27, 2012, 03:46:13 AM »
Not sure what you mean by that. Anyway, moving onto seagoing catamarans, the "Our Lady" class of 1986 which were used by Sealink between Portsmouth and the Isle of Wight.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6771/hscourlady.jpg

please see attached image*, as an illustration of what i meant. The correct term is as AP pointed out slipway.



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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #148 on: November 27, 2012, 03:49:17 AM »
pretty cool


no, make that very cool

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #149 on: November 27, 2012, 05:53:58 PM »
nice very nice.
I hope that i nearly have time to play simutrans.

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #150 on: December 09, 2012, 04:13:33 PM »
Continuing with small catamarans, the FastCat class of 1996 which superceded the previous catamarans on the Isle of Wight route.


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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #151 on: December 09, 2012, 04:19:45 PM »
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This ship looks very hot out in the Yellow color.  ;)

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #152 on: December 09, 2012, 04:43:23 PM »
Very nice!

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #153 on: December 09, 2012, 04:44:13 PM »
And to complete the set, the most modern Solent catamaran, the Wight Ryder:


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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #154 on: December 09, 2012, 04:50:48 PM »
Delightful!

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #155 on: December 09, 2012, 05:08:00 PM »
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Cam the ships at monday in the svn?

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #156 on: December 09, 2012, 08:33:46 PM »
Like the new catamaran!

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #157 on: December 13, 2012, 10:31:53 PM »
Onto larger ocean-going catamarans - the Incat 96m catamaran with a capacity up to 900 pax.


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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #158 on: December 14, 2012, 01:26:44 AM »
Gosh - impressive!

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #159 on: December 14, 2012, 02:00:17 PM »
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The SWhip on the Photo looks very good out. :thumbsup:

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #160 on: December 14, 2012, 06:42:22 PM »
A more modern and larger version of the above - the Incat 112m catamaran:



And an earlier 74m version (1990):

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #161 on: December 15, 2012, 10:16:48 AM »
This board has gone very quiet, but at least the shipbuilding continues apace... Next up the Stena Line HSS 1500 class catamaran:


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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #162 on: December 16, 2012, 08:02:44 PM »
A seriously impressive developing variety of catamarans!

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #163 on: December 16, 2012, 10:09:41 PM »
This isn't technically a catamaran (despite the SuperSeaCat branding!) but a fast ferry: the MDV 1200:


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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #164 on: December 16, 2012, 10:13:09 PM »
Very nice! You have been busy...

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #165 on: December 18, 2012, 11:46:42 AM »
Now to make a set of cross-channel ferries. Starting with the most recent, the 2011 "Spirit Class" used by P&O. For the RoRo ferries I am coding them as passenger vehicles with three optional mail, piece and cooled goods holds, using the same idea I've just introduced for early sailing ships. This is to represent the fact that HGVs can and do use these ferries.


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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #166 on: December 18, 2012, 11:54:42 AM »
Very nice!

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #167 on: December 18, 2012, 12:39:13 PM »
Super.
That go very fast with the Painting.

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #168 on: December 18, 2012, 02:26:02 PM »
wow, someone has been busy this month!

great work

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #169 on: December 18, 2012, 02:36:16 PM »
Turns out modern ships are quite quick to make because they are quite simple shapes. Here's a couple more - the P&O Super European ferries. Originally built in 1991 as freight ferries (i.e. for HGVs) some were rebuilt in 2003 as conventional passenger car/HGV ferries. This would be good to replicate in experimental.





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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #170 on: December 18, 2012, 05:01:30 PM »
Turns out modern ships are quite quick to make because they are quite simple shapes. Here's a couple more - the P&O Super European ferries. Originally built in 1991 as freight ferries (i.e. for HGVs) some were rebuilt in 2003 as conventional passenger car/HGV ferries. This would be good to replicate in experimental.






Looking lovely! May I ask - is the second graphic the rebuilt version of the first (or vice versa)?

Edit: Incidentally, there is much to be said for having these HGV ferries as having a much lower loading time, but much lower capacity, than, say, container ships (and container ships in turn having a substantially lower loading time than conventionally loaded ships).

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #171 on: December 18, 2012, 07:47:02 PM »
James, the second image is the original freight version, with the HGV deck visible and substantially less passenger accomodation. It would make sense to me for RoRos to have lower capacity and faster loading time than container ships as you suggest.

Next up, the P&O Pride class of 1987:


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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #172 on: December 18, 2012, 07:55:50 PM »
Yes, RORO type ships should be convenient and handy to use between low volume points. Container ships are, ideally, suited for high volume transport.

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Re: Boats, barges and ships
« Reply #173 on: December 18, 2012, 08:44:36 PM »
Do we yet have simple cross-river type ferries? Chain ferries, that sort of thing? There were obviously a lot of them at one point in the uk, before big bridges were possible/affordable... still a few operating.

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« Reply #174 on: December 18, 2012, 08:52:17 PM »
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(and container ships in turn having a substantially lower loading time than conventionally loaded ships)

with your industry obsolescence code in experimental you have the necessary tools now to introduce containers as an actual cargo type. Such that old factory requiring piece goods closes down, new factory requires goods to be delivered to and from as containers. Except raw materials and perhaps end consumers this could apply to practically all goods.