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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2010, 09:54:46 AM »
You can use this one from A. Brose (SMSC May Edition Winner)... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Abrose_bigcity.png

Too bad. This one is already in. I need another. ;D

Frank's post

Done. Thank you.

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2010, 10:16:01 AM »
There is also another source repository now:

http://github.com/aburch/simutrans

This link should be mentioned on the development section.

It is a clone of the svn-repository with another version-control system (git).
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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2010, 03:23:37 PM »
Too bad. This one is already in. I need another. ;D

I asked for Screenshots at the German forum and they asked if there was a restriction in size or a specific topic the screenshot has to be about.
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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2010, 08:41:32 PM »
As it is not the official one and even hosting simutrans-experimental, I would be not too happy with making it official. Maybe lable it as an alternative one? There is also a git version of the "official SVN" at git://tron.homeunix.org/simutrans.

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2010, 06:24:09 AM »
I asked for Screenshots at the German forum and they asked if there was a restriction in size or a specific topic the screenshot has to be about.

Simple things:
- 800 x 600px max (If larger, I can cut it down)
- No objects from other paksets (sample of a screenshot that doesn't fit)
- No add-ons (well, not mandatory)

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Please, I would like some help on these things:

- Development page: I feel this page looks a tad "messy" and needs a cleaning. Maybe it lacks some important info. I'd like make it "pleasant" for people who might get involved with development.

- Pakset Gallery: check if there are missing/wrong info. Missing paksets? Outdated paksets? Let me know.

- Simutrans Links: check if there are missing sites and/or wrong info. Fan sites, if good and reliable, are welcome.

- Other pages: feel free to make suggestions.

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2010, 01:14:07 PM »
Igor, here you are: The Transporter posted a screenshot. Have look at it here
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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2010, 02:33:00 AM »
Igor, here you are: The Transporter posted a screenshot (...)

Thank you.

It's already in: http://simutrans.com/newsite/paksets.htm

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2010, 06:27:23 PM »
http://www.simutrans.com/development.htm

under 'Writing manuals and tutorials'

I think the link 'Simutrans Wiki' rename to 'Simutrans Wikis Home.

And the link 'Simutrans Germany Wiki' rename to 'Simutrans Tikiwiki'.
The Tikiwiki include English, Swedish, Czech ( since yesterday ) and German.

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Done, it's already in testing version of Simutrans.com

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (SITE JUST UPDATED!!!)
« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2010, 11:46:15 PM »
I'm right now updating the Simutrans.com site (which can be found here: http://simutrans.com/newsite)

If you want to talk with me about the site update, you can find me at Simutrans Chat (http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=1369.0 or irc://quakenet/Simutrans).



The Simutrans.com site has been updated!

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2010, 01:33:29 PM »
THere are some links, which should go to simutrans.com

Hongkong community forum (quite active!) and lots of pak128 addons:
http://www.hkbdc.info/index.php?c=12

And another Link, which might be useful: A collection of all simutrans videos.
http://gabrielbur.info/index.php?key=simutrans

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #46 on: October 30, 2010, 02:12:11 PM »
Done. :)

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #47 on: October 30, 2010, 03:02:39 PM »
I think the Hongkong forum should rather go to the community page. But maybe some hongkong player should comment.

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2011, 02:50:24 PM »
Maybe we could update the simutrans development page? A suggestion for the main part of the page is attached.

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2011, 06:52:52 PM »
It's up. http://www.simutrans.com/development.htm

Please report me about any flaws. Copy-pasting stuff not always works fine.

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2011, 07:34:33 PM »
Since I typed it, I immediately spotted a typo like "creenshot". But I am sure I left more in it ...

Thanks, anyway for the fast reaction.

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2011, 08:01:39 PM »
Get involved-programming and source code. Why two sections?

Otherwise very good... I never look at the pages but it seems they have everything needed :)

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #52 on: January 05, 2011, 08:17:45 PM »
Well get involved also included pak set drawing, translation etc. The programming is indeed a little reduntant. (However, I feel like we need more programmers at the moment, as there are aparently a lot of artists around.)

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2011, 11:46:11 PM »
perhaps it would be also a good idea to mention the Artisitic License on that page, so potential contributors know the conditions under which they contribute.


also found a minor typo:
"The forum is also the first address to discuss or recieve help on compiling simutrans and related questions."

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #54 on: February 07, 2011, 03:26:24 AM »
also found a minor typo:
"The forum is also the first address to discuss or recieve help on compiling simutrans and related questions."

Fixed.

Besides, I want to rewrite "Welcome" to "Home" in the header, because some days ago I used an old 800x600 screen and the header gets screwed up just by few characters.

Another thing, I would like to ask to test the links in download page. I'm afraid that something is still broken there.

EDIT:

The "Wiki Manual" link in the front page was changed, now it points to http://wiki.simutrans-germany.com/. Also, this means the material of old wiki (that wasn't transferred, if still) will no longer be found from simutrans.com front page.

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #55 on: February 08, 2011, 07:34:12 PM »
Besides, I want to rewrite "Welcome" to "Home" in the header, because some days ago I used an old 800x600 screen and the header gets screwed up just by few characters.

Any comment? Can I go for it? ;)

Another thing: we have new links on Simutrans fan sites list:
- Edcitysimutrans
- Minami-Fukuoka Car Corp. Simutrans division
- Simutrans Hispano

http://simutrans.com/links.htm#Simutrans_fan_sites

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #56 on: February 08, 2011, 09:40:08 PM »
It makes more sense to call it Home, as it's usual way to name the frontpage in all websites.

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (110.0 is out - site updated)
« Reply #57 on: February 15, 2011, 12:16:09 AM »
Download page is updated. Please test to see if there are broken links:

http://www.simutrans.com/download.htm

No Simutrans Complete for 110.0 at this moment. Remove this section?

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #58 on: February 15, 2011, 09:51:51 AM »
When I wrote the announcement, I found we have many pak sets not featured on simutrans.com. Perhaps one could merge the simutrans download page with the page set page. Or a streamlined version with only one smaller image (256x128 or so) pak set link with size and version.

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #59 on: February 15, 2011, 03:58:43 PM »
You can use the images used on Simutrans wiki on paksets page. They are 300x225 and are about 30kb and links to a 1024x768 one. It'll save time.

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2011, 04:02:22 PM »
Now that we have Multiplayer in the stable I think we should have a page on the main site detailing the process of playing online with Simutrans. This could be a big selling point for the game with new players and I think it really deserves its own page on the homepage.

I'd be happy to write up some copy on this with a brief guide to playing online and listing of the online resources.
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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2011, 08:01:26 PM »
You all are proposing "tons" of changes for the portal :D. That's why I opened this topic: http://forum.simutrans.com/index.php?topic=6860.0

- I agree we need to merge Downloads with paksets page, but Download needs to be trimmed down first.

- We need a page for server listing. (better if the page was updated via a command sent from Simutrans. Player clicks on "Host" in Simutrans and his server is added into server list table, not manually as now)

- It'd be better an index page that displays the latest news of the blog (see http://www.freecol.org/ or http://www.blender.org/)

- A flexible layout that wouldn't require to edit all pages every time a new page is created (header: I hate you!).

- A friendly way to download Simutrans and tools.

- If the portal was coded in php or something, other sites could be merged with the portal, e.g. svnlogs.simutrans.com.

- Most of all pages are true wall-of-text. No one bothers reading more than 4 lines per subject (Welcome to the Internet, amigos)

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #62 on: February 15, 2011, 08:26:04 PM »
In theory, svnlogs could be moved here. There is no active part of the page that does anything, so the static files could be uploaded here instead - done :) Or you could load the sub-pages in an iframe.

Most of all pages are true wall-of-text. No one bothers reading more than 4 lines per subject (Welcome to the Internet, amigos)
Agreed. Then again, we want some text for those who want to read.

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #63 on: March 13, 2011, 03:09:23 AM »
Simutrans.com site updated:

- download page: Simutrans Complete removed. Download links for 110.0.1. Page clean-up.

http://www.simutrans.com/download.htm

Please check if something is broken. :)

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #64 on: March 13, 2011, 11:58:20 AM »
Some paksets point to files and some to "folders". Pak64 points to a folder, for example... Executables all point to files.

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #65 on: March 13, 2011, 12:13:08 PM »
Because it's a big annoyance to update the page, link by link, every time a pakset is released with no warning or announcement, without a standard or consistency. That's why paksets links point to the folders, mostly.

Once I gave up, because of severals pakset releases.... until someone says "surprise! the links are badly outdated", then I came back with the job. ;D

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #66 on: March 14, 2011, 12:56:17 PM »
Perhaps we should have a meta-file. Or parse the NSIS installer files, there is all pak set info colletcted together with a name and so on ...

Maybe we should consider adding a network page, incoporation the server list and a very short howto?

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (... new pakset page on the way?)
« Reply #67 on: March 21, 2011, 03:25:41 AM »
I'm doing some experiences with pakset page:

http://www.simutrans.com/paksets-test.htm

The good:
- less images
- less loading time
- less wall-of-texts
- better layout
- download links
- links for discussions and sites

The bad (things that still need to get done):
- the CSS still needs to be fixed ;D
- screenshots are badly outdated and/or don't present the pakst quite wel
- some paksets may be discontinued and others are missing. Oh well...

As you can see I made the test only with first 3 pakset sections of the page. If people like it, I'll complete it. ;)

Maybe we should consider adding a network page, incoporation the server list and a very short howto?

Maybe or I could place a link pointing to the wiki text about network servers.

To be honest, I'm considering replacing entire site layout with something more flexible.

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #68 on: March 21, 2011, 12:35:48 PM »
I have locos running into pictures?

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Re: Simutrans site - www.simutrans.com (2nd round)
« Reply #69 on: March 21, 2011, 02:39:44 PM »
My biggest concern about the page is, it lacks a meaningful order for the paksets.
Orders could be:
- by popularity (players/downloads) (es. pak64, 128, 96, 64.german, 128.britain or whatever else comes from more or less reliable statistics)
- by tile size (es. pak 32, pak 64 and 64 variants, pak 96, pak 128, pak 192, etc...); the variants could be ordered by popularity
- by date of first creation, last released, etc...

Any idea?