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Tracks replacement project for pak 128

Started by Fabio, February 14, 2009, 03:24:48 PM

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Fabio

#211
The model is bowstring/tied arch bridge. They are usually made of concrete or latticework. 200 km/h will be in concrete, 240 km/h will likely be in latticework.
Maybe the concrete one could be 4-6 px wide and as thick.

This is the model I use for the above bridge:



EDIT: Uploaded image with Tinypic, as the link provided didn't work

mEGa

I'm late I'm afraid... But come back after few days of holidays...

About 320 & 400 km/h elevated...
Just a little suggestion : drawing additionnal shadow of wall like this :

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Fabio

New screenshot for 200 km/h bridge (revised):


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ӔO

the 200km/h bridge looks much better now.
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sdog

looks very good now fabio, and thanks for the references.

Fabio

I didn't update screenshots for more than a week!

Here's new 240 km/h bridge:


And here's an updated 200 km/h bridge:


Here, finally, the updated version of 400 km/h elevated:

It features two little pieces of magic:
- new front images for ways (I'll never thank Dwachs enough)
- the tile upslope is actually 144 px tall ;) This allows space for the back fence. It's accomplished having 2 different offsets for back and front image and painting the front pillar in the front image.
You can also see mEGa's shade in vertical diagonals.

mEGa

Hi,

Always so successful !

I notice one thing about shades (once again ;-) ). I mean you notice too and will correct this.
See the joined sight.
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Fabio

Here's another preview: 100 km/h and 120 km/h truss bridges:


prissi

The bridge look extremely generic. More like 8 bit colors, and way too plain.

And the track on the grass has way too little contrast, I see no sleepers at all. Maybe this is an unlucky combination, but it gives a strong toy look to me.

ӔO

some of those types of steel truss bridges don't use sleepers or a walkable deck at all. Instead the rails are fastened to a longitudinal beam. This solves a problem with keeping ballast on the deck and it cuts down on amount of materials required.
example: http://youtu.be/EehbbXZj6D4?t=2m8s
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Fabio

Truss completely reworked, I hope with better results.

This is a preview, some errors (e.g. missing pillars) are known.

Thanks for your feedback!



DCD

Quote from: fabio on March 02, 2012, 06:28:11 PM
I didn't update screenshots for more than a week!

Here's new 240 km/h bridge:


And here's an updated 200 km/h bridge:


Here, finally, the updated version of 400 km/h elevated:

It features two little pieces of magic:
- new front images for ways (I'll never thank Dwachs enough)
- the tile upslope is actually 144 px tall ;) This allows space for the back fence. It's accomplished having 2 different offsets for back and front image and painting the front pillar in the front image.
You can also see mEGa's shade in vertical diagonals.


very very beautiful   :o      i like that

great work
.             SIMUTRANS--SIMUTRANS  
                             *-*   
 

ӔO

I think all 4 of those truss bridges are good. I think the first version could be used as well, as long as the deck from the second version is used.

I also think the second version could be one tone darker.
My Sketchup open project sources
various projects rolled up: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17111233/Roll_up.rar

Colour safe chart:

Fabio

I'm still working on bridges, now on the oldest / lowest speed. Screenshots will follow.




Here's a very interesting reading about bridge types. I wanted to share it, although many of these types are not possible / not nice with the current bridges code.

http://pghbridges.com/basics.htm

mEGa

Very very interesting. Thanks to have shared this resource.
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Václav

It is very interesting, I agree with mEGa - but here is also one minor problem - some ones cannot be done - or only with big problems - due to slope bridge entrances - and some only for very short bridges (with total limit of 3 tiles - it means two entrances and one middle part).

Chybami se člověk učí - ale někteří lidé jsou nepoučitelní

Fabio


Just to bump this thread...

The work is proceding, slowly but steady enough.

Estimated work statistics:
TRACK
BRIDGE
ELEVATED
TUNNEL
TOTAL
60
90%
80%
85%
80
90%
80%
90%
87%
80
90%
80%
90%
87%
100
90%
80%
90%
87%
120
90%
80%
90%
87%
140
90%
60%
60%
90%
75%
160
90%
60%
60%
90%
75%
180
90%
60%
60%
90%
75%
200
90%
90%
5%
90%
69%
240
90%
80%
5%
90%
66%
280
90%
5%
5%
5%
26%
320
90%
90%
90%
5%
69%
400
90%
90%
90%
5%
69%
TOTAL
90%
72%
47%
69%
73%

All in black is ready for test release. it misses snow version, which will be added later (= between test release and final release).

Red: This part is missing or must be redone from the scratch, I'll work on it soon.

Orange: These bridges were ready, but now I want to try to make them larger (= 1 full tile) for better look with stations. These tracks (140, 160 and 180 km/h) are intended to be the general purpose tracks, and those used in urban sections, so they need to look good with a station. Widening them shouldn't take long.

Dark red: Mostly done, they possibly need some improvement of their ramps.

I know this set is long overdue, I hope I can deliver it soon enough for testing.

PkK

1) Thanks for all the new tracks. simutrans really needs a complete track set and the current lack of fast bridges really hurts it.
2) I'd like to see earlier elevated railways. AFAIR the 5.5. km elevated London and Greenwich Railway opened in 1838.

http://www.engrailhistory.info/imfile/r03812.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/London-Greenwich_viaduct.jpg

Fabio

Ok, 140, 160 and 180 km/h repainted (just a couple of details needed), now they are a full tile wide:









Quote from: PkK on April 26, 2012, 09:22:16 AM
1) Thanks for all the new tracks. simutrans really needs a complete track set and the current lack of fast bridges really hurts it.
2) I'd like to see earlier elevated railways. AFAIR the 5.5. km elevated London and Greenwich Railway opened in 1838.

Thanks for the feedback. I'll see to plan better the early age, maybe adding a new 120 km railtrack including elevated as well.

mEGa

Great !
As you answered me, I can help you creating tracks tube under tunnel.

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greenling

Fabio
Nice Photo what you bemake have!
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Paderau

Hello!
I need tunnels for High speed trains ...more than 280 km/h >>> 420km/h like Bridges seems a good speed...
I'm a beginner and don't know how to create that!
Does it exist?
Where is it possible to Load them?

Thanks for your help!
And have fun!

Fabio

They are planned.
Actually, they are the last objects completely missing from my replacement set...

Paderau

Thanks Fabio for your Help
and please, let me know when they are ready

PkK

How about putting the best parts of this into the main pak?
The current main pak really has some shortcomings, in particular the lack of fast bridges. So how about just getting the fast bridges into main? In case the track replacement project gets completed some time, the other items can always be put into the main pack then.

Philipp

mEGa

Quote from: Paderau on August 02, 2012, 08:19:49 PM
Hello!
I need tunnels for High speed trains ...more than 280 km/h >>> 420km/h like Bridges seems a good speed...
I'm a beginner and don't know how to create that!
Does it exist?
Where is it possible to Load them?

Before planned replacement tunnels, you can use japanese addons may be :
http://japanese.simutrans.com/index.php?Addon128%2FRailTools%202#m0655a6e
But max speed is only 360 km/h
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Ghost-cz

yeah man, the bridges look fantastic....when will you release it? I can´t w8  8)

greenling

Ghost-cz
Fabio work slowly but very good.
Then you try to make steam that Fabio faster work it Posible that he go in Strike.
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greenling

Ghost-cz
I Work self on a Pakset but the Ajust from prices and Power needs many time.
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Fabio

I must confess the works got slowed/delayed in the last few months.

So I decided to release a test pak including only 60 km/h to 180 km/h.

These are (should be) finalized in their summer version.
After I receive some feedback, I believe also the sources could be released and replace in the official pakset all tracks up to 160 km/h.

:down: test-railtracks-120921.zip (1.25 MB)

greenling

Fabio
Nice that you be relase a Testpakfile.
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